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Article #828Re: noise cancellation
From: Mike Black
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 1990 22:47
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 1990 22:47
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In article <2923@demo.COM> jgk@osc.COM (Joe Keane) writes: >In article <170@locke.water.ca.gov> rfinch@caldwr.water.ca.gov (Ralph Finch) >writes: >>In an audio noise canceller (sp?), one injects energy into the air. >>Like a truly soundless room, no sound is heard, but now there is >>energy. What does this energy get converted into, heating the >>air maybe? In a soundful room, would the energy heat other objects >>(walls)? > >If the sound is really cancelled, there can be no power transmitted through >the air. Therefore, if one sound source is putting power in, the other has to >be taking it out. After you add up various losses, it may or may not be >generating electrical power. It's really more of a sound sink than a source. > >Note that to completely cancel the sound everywhere, the sound sources have to >occupy the same point in space. The previous comment still applies to partial >cancellation, one is probably taking power out. I beg to differ, but just because the sound is 'cancelled' doesn't mean that there is no power being transmitted. A sound wave in a gas has accociated with it an excess pressure, an excess density, a particle displacement, and a particle velocity. It is the oscillation of these that produce the effect we know as sound. If you provide an opposite phase oscillator (typically by simply inverting the signal close to the ear of the listener), you will make these items constant instead of oscillating. In effect, you will create a constant increase in pressure, density, displacement, and velocity. You still have the energy deposited by both transmitters, but without the oscillations a human won't hear it. An atmospheric pressure gauge might (if it could detect the one-millionth atmospheric pressure change). You could also take this to the extreme and eventually cause quite a bit of pain to someone (probably from heat before pressure) and they'd never hear a thing. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- : usenet: black@beno.CSS.GOV : land line: 407-494-5853 : I want a computer: : real home: Melbourne, FL : home line: 407-242-8619 : that does it all!: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!uunet!seismo!beno!black From: black@beno.CSS.GOV (Mike Black) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: noise cancellation Message-ID: <48884@seismo.CSS.GOV> Date: 12 Jun 90 22:47:06 GMT References: <595@mercury.iotek.UUCP> <791@anaxagoras.ils.nwu.edu> <170@locke.water.ca.gov> <2923@demo.COM> Sender: usenet@seismo.CSS.GOV Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA Lines: 38