Re: Absolute addresses, relative addresses

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From: Eric Minso
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:40

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"Alex McDonald" <alex_mcd@btopenworld.com> wrote in message 
> But your code is still vulnerable to hackers with debuggers. Protecting your
> intellectual property needs to be done without using this incredibly
> dangerous development technique.
> 
> [...]
>
> Wrong. Some of the most succesful are propagated by people like us, through
> email and general unhygenic file-swapping habits. Self-duplication has got
> nothing to do with it. How about Nachi -- hey, it tried to fix things! Still
> a virus though.
> 
> > Sued ?
> > About which crime please ?
> >
> 
> I know you think you're not writing a virus, but you're certainly going
> about it like you are.
> 
> Look, your boss suggests, or you go off on your own bat, & pick up some
> junky bits of code off a virus web site or ftp server. Then you modify it
> and then spread it around with your commercial products. You're having
> trouble with relative/absolute addressing; I defy you to understand what
> some viruses get up to, and the incredible lengths virus writers go to in
> making their code difficult to spot by virus scanners, which makes it
> difficult to read. How do you know what you've done? Leave _anything_ that
> claims to be a virus alone.


You didn't understand me.

Do you really think I am crazy enough to compile source code I don't
understand ?

Do you really think I will stupidly copy-paste their code inside my
application ?

Sorry.


What I'm trying to do is to understand how an application can add a
"patch code" to another application.

I _never_ compile untrusted source code.
I _always_ _write_ each line of my code.
I _always_ _understand_ each line of my code.

Are you still anxious ?
Are you still believing I will stupidly and accidentally release a
virus ?

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From: minso@altern.org (Eric Minso)
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Subject: Re: Absolute addresses, relative addresses
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