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Article #61Re: Which one for Newbie (Java - Eclipse or JBuilder)
From: Steve
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:37
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2002 01:37
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This is just my opinion, so take it for what it is worth. Wizard laden IDEs are for experienced programmers, not newbies. 1. You don't learn the language unless you use it. Wizards take this away 2. If you don't learn the language you are helpless if the wizards don't meet 100 % of the situation. 3. Most wizards produce poorly laid out, poorly designed code that is hard to maintain. Thats okay for making a fast demo, but if you want the product to last you end up going back and writing it yourself anyway. The fastest way to learn a language is to program in that language as much as you can. If you want to become a good progammer I would recommend avoiding the wizards for a while and getting yourself a good programmer's text editor. Since price is not an issue I highly recommend Visual Slick Edit. Very powerful, easy to learn and easy to customize: http://www.slickedit.com ====================================== "Angel" <transnation2k@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<39mX8.71483$1D2.29419397@twister.socal.rr.com>... > I've been programming stuff via GUI and other software packages like > UltraDev, InterDev by MS and wanted to try out Vis. Studio's VJ's package > but never got to it. > > The company is getting into java/moving and and I need to pick up Java > ASAP. > > I read quite a bit and I am looking into JBuilder and Eclipse. I worked > with prev. people in the past and they highly SPEAK of Borland in general. > > Not just of their JBuilder but their Delphi and their C++. > > I need to pick up java quick and I needed something that is easy to use > maybe lots of tools and wizards; if possible. I also used MS InterDev > and liked the built-in tools that works with IIS and others. > > I haven't tried JBuilder no Eclipse yet. I am d/l Eclipse right now > and wonder how this will be like. > > Eventually I will continue studying the language and pick up other > necessary programs that will be required by school like VB intro > and Advance, Java and few others. > > I think by using Java I won't be limited to just the M$ systems > and I can move to WebLogic; other Databases like Oracle or > mySQL (in my case). > > Price would not be an issue.
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