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Article #406Re: Software recommendations 4 beginner
From: Wally Highsmith
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:00
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:00
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Portability? Visual J++ runs on ALL the platforms!!! Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Workstation, Windows NT and Windows 2000. JLP wrote in message <85fvjo$h37$1@nnrp1.deja.com>... >In article <85fms2$aud$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, > Derek P. <dprior80@my-deja.com> wrote: >> Because it is movement in the wrong direction. Obviously, calls >> relative to a system can not be made. Potential, however, is there. >> Cell phones, pagers, televisions.... Why dilute the language with >> specific keywords now and just ruin any chance at portability. A >> program like the NetBeans IDE is a prime example. 1 program can be >used >> in Solaris, Mac, Linux, NT. J++ is merely microsofts attempt to ruin >> cross platform java. Maybe it's a great program with a clean, sensible >> environment, but it doesn't change the fact that it was developed to >> dilute java. >> >> I believe this is an interesting conversation, worthy of continuing. >I >> will post a new thread on it soon. >> >> ~Derek >> >Well, >I don't mind continuing a conversation... >I don't want to confuse the new guys and I don't want involved in war >of words and slams...that is useless. Now that I've said that...I'll >continue. > >As I said previously platform independence is highly valuable for >internet type things...I should have been a little more generic and >stated communications in general. Obviously platform independence >alleviates the need to specialize anything to a platform. > >As far as J++ goes, I frankly, don't care what Micro$oft'$ motive'$ >were...perhaps, I have Idea$ about what they could be...like $$. But >regardless, I have to say, their IDE is awesome. I've looked at lots >of different ones and admittedly I haven't used too many but, I have >used a few others and this one is a good practical way to learn >programming. > >Some will complain...it's not pure java...but none have obviously tried >to fix it. I have just downloaded an add in manager and plan to >develop a tool to interface directly with J++ to produce pure jdk1.2 >using sun's compiler...of course this will alleviate completely the >need for anything but the editor portion of J++. But it's always there >if you want it.... > >You may be thinking it's not possible to use sun's compiler but I have >just run an executable using my add on which means I only have to give >it parameters and choose javac, java...or whatever and I'm set! > >It's more than possible to do...and the sad thing is that the >capability has been there for several years but not too many know about >it....just search this group and you'll see try add-ins...you'll find a >handfull of 3rd party software types...but nothing from ms. > >Oh, I have to say, I have little knowledge of programming...I'm a >physicsist but I taught myself programming...I just happened to choose >java! So I may not be able to keep up with your conversation too >long...but I'll read and post when I can... > >Jeremy > > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f74b3,704b29bcaade4f3e X-Google-Attributes: gidf74b3,public X-Google-Thread: 100145,704b29bcaade4f3e X-Google-Attributes: gid100145,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,704b29bcaade4f3e X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 114aa0,704b29bcaade4f3e X-Google-Attributes: gid114aa0,public From: "Wally Highsmith" <wallyh@IHATESPAMMERS_clientlink.com> Subject: Re: Software recommendations 4 beginner Date: 2000/01/11 Message-ID: <eg6TMyGX$GA.204@cppssbbsa04> X-Deja-AN: 571307576 References: <387a5183.4407399@news.ilinkusa.net> <387ABB47.50CBE867@alicea.org> <85f6oo$ujh$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <85filn$7hu$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <85fjq9$8g8$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <85fms2$aud$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <85fvjo$h37$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer,microsoft.public.java.visualj++,ibm.software.vajava.language,borland.public.jbuilder.java.language X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0