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Re: Software recommendations 4 beginner

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From: Wally Highsmith
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:00
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Portability? Visual J++ runs on ALL the platforms!!!
Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows Workstation,  Windows NT and Windows 2000.



JLP wrote in message <85fvjo$h37$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <85fms2$aud$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>  Derek P. <dprior80@my-deja.com> wrote:
>> Because it is movement in the wrong direction.  Obviously, calls
>> relative to a system can not be made.  Potential, however, is there.
>> Cell phones, pagers, televisions.... Why dilute the language with
>> specific keywords now and just ruin any chance at portability.  A
>> program like the NetBeans IDE is a prime example.  1 program can be
>used
>> in Solaris, Mac, Linux, NT.  J++ is merely microsofts attempt to ruin
>> cross platform java. Maybe it's a great program with a clean, sensible
>> environment, but it doesn't change the fact that it was developed to
>> dilute java.
>>
>> I believe this is an interesting conversation, worthy of continuing.
>I
>> will post a new thread on it soon.
>>
>> ~Derek
>>
>Well,
>I don't mind continuing a conversation...
>I don't want to confuse the new guys and I don't want involved in war
>of words and slams...that is useless.  Now that I've said that...I'll
>continue.
>
>As I said previously platform independence is highly valuable for
>internet type things...I should have been a little more generic and
>stated communications in general.  Obviously platform independence
>alleviates the need to specialize anything to a platform.
>
>As far as J++ goes, I frankly, don't care what Micro$oft'$ motive'$
>were...perhaps, I have Idea$ about what they could be...like $$.  But
>regardless, I have to say, their IDE is awesome.  I've looked at lots
>of different ones and admittedly I haven't used too many but, I have
>used a few others and this one is a good practical way to learn
>programming.
>
>Some will complain...it's not pure java...but none have obviously tried
>to fix it.  I have just downloaded an add in manager and plan to
>develop a tool to interface directly with J++ to produce pure jdk1.2
>using sun's compiler...of course this will alleviate completely the
>need for anything but the editor portion of J++. But it's always there
>if you want it....
>
>You may be thinking it's not possible to use sun's compiler but I have
>just run an executable using my add on which means I only have to give
>it parameters and choose javac, java...or whatever and I'm set!
>
>It's more than possible to do...and the sad thing is that the
>capability has been there for several years but not too many know about
>it....just search this group and you'll see try add-ins...you'll find a
>handfull of 3rd party software types...but nothing from ms.
>
>Oh, I have to say, I have little knowledge of programming...I'm a
>physicsist but I taught myself programming...I just happened to choose
>java!  So I may not be able to keep up with your conversation too
>long...but I'll read and post when I can...
>
>Jeremy
>
>
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>Before you buy.
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From: "Wally Highsmith" <wallyh@IHATESPAMMERS_clientlink.com>
Subject: Re: Software recommendations 4 beginner
Date: 2000/01/11
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