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Article #402Re: Software recommendations 4 beginner
From: JLP
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:00
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:00
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In article <85fms2$aud$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Derek P. <dprior80@my-deja.com> wrote: > Because it is movement in the wrong direction. Obviously, calls > relative to a system can not be made. Potential, however, is there. > Cell phones, pagers, televisions.... Why dilute the language with > specific keywords now and just ruin any chance at portability. A > program like the NetBeans IDE is a prime example. 1 program can be used > in Solaris, Mac, Linux, NT. J++ is merely microsofts attempt to ruin > cross platform java. Maybe it's a great program with a clean, sensible > environment, but it doesn't change the fact that it was developed to > dilute java. > > I believe this is an interesting conversation, worthy of continuing. I > will post a new thread on it soon. > > ~Derek > Well, I don't mind continuing a conversation... I don't want to confuse the new guys and I don't want involved in war of words and slams...that is useless. Now that I've said that...I'll continue. As I said previously platform independence is highly valuable for internet type things...I should have been a little more generic and stated communications in general. Obviously platform independence alleviates the need to specialize anything to a platform. As far as J++ goes, I frankly, don't care what Micro$oft'$ motive'$ were...perhaps, I have Idea$ about what they could be...like $$. But regardless, I have to say, their IDE is awesome. I've looked at lots of different ones and admittedly I haven't used too many but, I have used a few others and this one is a good practical way to learn programming. Some will complain...it's not pure java...but none have obviously tried to fix it. I have just downloaded an add in manager and plan to develop a tool to interface directly with J++ to produce pure jdk1.2 using sun's compiler...of course this will alleviate completely the need for anything but the editor portion of J++. But it's always there if you want it.... You may be thinking it's not possible to use sun's compiler but I have just run an executable using my add on which means I only have to give it parameters and choose javac, java...or whatever and I'm set! It's more than possible to do...and the sad thing is that the capability has been there for several years but not too many know about it....just search this group and you'll see try add-ins...you'll find a handfull of 3rd party software types...but nothing from ms. Oh, I have to say, I have little knowledge of programming...I'm a physicsist but I taught myself programming...I just happened to choose java! So I may not be able to keep up with your conversation too long...but I'll read and post when I can... Jeremy Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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