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Article #403Re: Software recommendations 4 beginner
From: Derek P.
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:00
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:00
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Well, I will open the conversation up to others on the thread titled "How Portable is Java?" Later... In article <85fvjo$h37$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, JLP <porter188@my-deja.com> wrote: > In article <85fms2$aud$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, > Derek P. <dprior80@my-deja.com> wrote: > > Because it is movement in the wrong direction. Obviously, calls > > relative to a system can not be made. Potential, however, is there. > > Cell phones, pagers, televisions.... Why dilute the language with > > specific keywords now and just ruin any chance at portability. A > > program like the NetBeans IDE is a prime example. 1 program can be > used > > in Solaris, Mac, Linux, NT. J++ is merely microsofts attempt to ruin > > cross platform java. Maybe it's a great program with a clean, sensible > > environment, but it doesn't change the fact that it was developed to > > dilute java. > > > > I believe this is an interesting conversation, worthy of continuing. > I > > will post a new thread on it soon. > > > > ~Derek > > > Well, > I don't mind continuing a conversation... > I don't want to confuse the new guys and I don't want involved in war > of words and slams...that is useless. Now that I've said that...I'll > continue. > > As I said previously platform independence is highly valuable for > internet type things...I should have been a little more generic and > stated communications in general. Obviously platform independence > alleviates the need to specialize anything to a platform. > > As far as J++ goes, I frankly, don't care what Micro$oft'$ motive'$ > were...perhaps, I have Idea$ about what they could be...like $$. But > regardless, I have to say, their IDE is awesome. I've looked at lots > of different ones and admittedly I haven't used too many but, I have > used a few others and this one is a good practical way to learn > programming. > > Some will complain...it's not pure java...but none have obviously tried > to fix it. I have just downloaded an add in manager and plan to > develop a tool to interface directly with J++ to produce pure jdk1.2 > using sun's compiler...of course this will alleviate completely the > need for anything but the editor portion of J++. But it's always there > if you want it.... > > You may be thinking it's not possible to use sun's compiler but I have > just run an executable using my add on which means I only have to give > it parameters and choose javac, java...or whatever and I'm set! > > It's more than possible to do...and the sad thing is that the > capability has been there for several years but not too many know about > it....just search this group and you'll see try add-ins...you'll find a > handfull of 3rd party software types...but nothing from ms. > > Oh, I have to say, I have little knowledge of programming...I'm a > physicsist but I taught myself programming...I just happened to choose > java! So I may not be able to keep up with your conversation too > long...but I'll read and post when I can... > > Jeremy > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. > -- Derek Prior University Of Massachusetts Computer Science Major, Class of 2002 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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