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Re: Software recommendations 4 beginner

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From: Derek P.
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 00:00
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Well, I will open the conversation up to others on the thread
titled "How Portable is Java?"  Later...

In article <85fvjo$h37$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  JLP <porter188@my-deja.com> wrote:
> In article <85fms2$aud$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
>   Derek P. <dprior80@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > Because it is movement in the wrong direction.  Obviously, calls
> > relative to a system can not be made.  Potential, however, is there.
> > Cell phones, pagers, televisions.... Why dilute the language with
> > specific keywords now and just ruin any chance at portability.  A
> > program like the NetBeans IDE is a prime example.  1 program can be
> used
> > in Solaris, Mac, Linux, NT.  J++ is merely microsofts attempt to
ruin
> > cross platform java. Maybe it's a great program with a clean,
sensible
> > environment, but it doesn't change the fact that it was developed to
> > dilute java.
> >
> > I believe this is an interesting conversation, worthy of continuing.
> I
> > will post a new thread on it soon.
> >
> > ~Derek
> >
> Well,
> I don't mind continuing a conversation...
> I don't want to confuse the new guys and I don't want involved in war
> of words and slams...that is useless.  Now that I've said that...I'll
> continue.
>
> As I said previously platform independence is highly valuable for
> internet type things...I should have been a little more generic and
> stated communications in general.  Obviously platform independence
> alleviates the need to specialize anything to a platform.
>
> As far as J++ goes, I frankly, don't care what Micro$oft'$ motive'$
> were...perhaps, I have Idea$ about what they could be...like $$.  But
> regardless, I have to say, their IDE is awesome.  I've looked at lots
> of different ones and admittedly I haven't used too many but, I have
> used a few others and this one is a good practical way to learn
> programming.
>
> Some will complain...it's not pure java...but none have obviously
tried
> to fix it.  I have just downloaded an add in manager and plan to
> develop a tool to interface directly with J++ to produce pure jdk1.2
> using sun's compiler...of course this will alleviate completely the
> need for anything but the editor portion of J++. But it's always there
> if you want it....
>
> You may be thinking it's not possible to use sun's compiler but I have
> just run an executable using my add on which means I only have to give
> it parameters and choose javac, java...or whatever and I'm set!
>
> It's more than possible to do...and the sad thing is that the
> capability has been there for several years but not too many know
about
> it....just search this group and you'll see try add-ins...you'll find
a
> handfull of 3rd party software types...but nothing from ms.
>
> Oh, I have to say, I have little knowledge of programming...I'm a
> physicsist but I taught myself programming...I just happened to choose
> java!  So I may not be able to keep up with your conversation too
> long...but I'll read and post when I can...
>
> Jeremy
>
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> Before you buy.
>

--
Derek Prior
University Of Massachusetts
Computer Science Major, Class of 2002


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