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Article #7112Re: GNU Script isn't fixing something that's broken, so is doomed
From: Tom Christiansen
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 16:08
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 16:08
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:-> In comp.lang.tcl, rockwell@nova.umd.edu (Raul Deluth Miller) writes: :Tom Christiansen: :. [Note the followup-to line, and adjust if necessary.] :. ... He would like this language to be used by any application :. wanting embeddability or extensibility will employ. : :"any" is too strong a word. : :From what I read, RMS wants to make something available which is :faster and more powerful than TCL. He wants to use this "something :better" in a number of significant projects. : :. Essentially, it will fail due to lack of consideration of these :. issues: :. * a developer's requirement to use whatever they feel like : :RMS is a developer, so are some other people that have expressed :interest in this project. Well, fine. Giving us another potential interface is just fine. Restricting our choices won't. As I said, a reasonable thing for the FSF to do might be to look toward unifying the C API to tk with an eye towards efficiency and portability. It's currently used in subtly different ways by tcl, perl, python, scheme, and even prolog. Guido and Malcolm were in heavy conference last week, so they'll probably do it anyway without the FSF's blessing. There's also the "danger" that what they'll do won't be copylefted, as both perl and python are available under alternative licencing restrictions to facilitate embedded use in commerical products, something at which they've been quite successful. At the risk of repeating myself, I'll state that in this community, only technical criteria matter. Politics do not drive the technical, but vice versa. To see it as otherwise is to fight a losing battle. Until gnu script appears, it's vaporware of a purely political nature, and just so much hype and hormones. Once it does, it has the potential of being a technical wonder and filling some gaping niche (which most of us can't see), at which point it will be judged on its technical merits. --tom -- Tom Christiansen Perl Consultant, Gamer, Hiker tchrist@mox.perl.com - Real programmers like vending machine popcorn. Coders pop it in the microwave oven. Real programmers use the heat from the CPU. They can tell which jobs are running from the rate of popping.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f891f,9bda08f2f068881f X-Google-Attributes: gidf891f,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,9bda08f2f068881f X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,9bda08f2f068881f X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-Thread: 10eb76,9bda08f2f068881f X-Google-Attributes: gid10eb76,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,9bda08f2f068881f X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 10dd18,9bda08f2f068881f X-Google-Attributes: gid10dd18,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1994-11-01 12:57:59 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!nntp.gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!news.cac.psu.edu!news.pop.psu.edu!hudson.lm.com!godot.cc.duq.edu!news.duke.edu!news.mathworks.com!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!library.ucla.edu!agate!boulder!csnews!mox!tchrist From: Tom Christiansen <tchrist@mox.perl.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.misc,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.lang.tcl,comp.lang.perl,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.python Subject: Re: GNU Script isn't fixing something that's broken, so is doomed Followup-To: comp.lang.misc,gnu.misc.discuss Date: 1 Nov 1994 16:08:38 GMT Organization: Perl Consulting and Training Lines: 44 Message-ID: <395p66$2j4@csnews.cs.Colorado.EDU> References: <394kll$kso@csnews.cs.Colorado.EDU> <ROCKWELL.94Nov1103650@nova.umd.edu> Reply-To: tchrist@mox.perl.com (Tom Christiansen) NNTP-Posting-Host: perl.com Originator: tchrist@mox