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In article <41299@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk>, gvw@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Greg Wilson) writes:
|> Apologies if this is a FAQ, but I am looking for a PD implementation of
|> Objective-C, and accompanying documentation (i.e. language description
|> with tutorials).

I would suggest looking at GNU and it's gcc version 2.2.x. There's an Objective-C
compiler in it, and GNU is (kind of) PD. With the tutorials, it is quite different...

Uli

In article <1992Aug18.123634.5905@news.th-darmstadt.de> uli@aida.intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Ulrich Grepel) writes:

   In article <41299@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk>, gvw@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Greg Wilson) writes:
   |> Apologies if this is a FAQ, but I am looking for a PD implementation of
   |> Objective-C, and accompanying documentation (i.e. language description
   |> with tutorials).

   I would suggest looking at GNU and it's gcc version 2.2.x. There's an Objective-C
   compiler in it, and GNU is (kind of) PD. With the tutorials, it is quite different...

   Uli

yes, and it is totally useless until someone writes the runtime
message dispatching routines.  basically, it doesn't have an Object
class.

what's "kind of PD" supposed to mean?  PD, assuming that the original
poster was referring to public domain, is a legal term.  either
something is or is not public domain.  you can't be "kind of" public
domain.  GNU stuff is freely distributable.  you just can't claim you
wrote it.
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In an article in (comp.lang.objective-C) khera@cs.duke.edu wites:
>In article <1992Aug18.123634.5905@news.th-darmstadt.de> uli@aida.intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Ulrich Grepel) writes:
>>   I would suggest looking at GNU and it's gcc version 2.2.x. There's an Objective-C
> >  compiler in it, and GNU is (kind of) PD. With the tutorials, it is quite different...
>
>   Uli
>

>what's "kind of PD" supposed to mean?  PD, assuming that the original
>poster was referring to public domain, is a legal term.  either
>something is or is not public domain.  you can't be "kind of" public
>domain.  GNU stuff is freely distributable.  you just can't claim you
>wrote it.

I think it means exactly what he said.  GNU is NOT Public Domain.
For most people though, it's as close as it need be.  It is NOT
freely distributable, there are conditions and limitations on how
you may distribute it.  From the USER'S perspective GNU is public
domain.  But from the developer's perspective (those who modify
GNU code), it most certainley is not.  This is not meant as a GNU
flame.

>yes, and it is totally useless until someone writes the runtime
>message dispatching routines.  basically, it doesn't have an Object
>class.
>

Can someone answer these questions:

Is GNU working on the runtime support for Objective-C?  Is someone
doing it and planning on donating it to GNU?  Is GNU Objective-C
still born? or will it one day get some life?

I would really really REALLY like to see the GNU compiler get an
Objective-C runtime.  Should I write it myself?????  Or can I help
GNU finish it?  Or can I help someone else write it?  Is someone
else writing it? I don't want to start writing it now, only to find
that in 2-3 months, someone allready has it done.

I hate having to post so many questions, but I'm so far in the
dark, that I can't post any statements.

If anyone can tell me the truth, or provide a pointer to the truth,
it would truly be appreciated.

     His anybody aware of some one work on the runtime for GNU.
     And to they need help.


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