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7 total messages Started by Leo Possajennikov Thu, 28 Dec 1995 00:00
Has this device startup volume?
#6
Author: Leo Possajennikov
Date: Thu, 28 Dec 1995 00:00
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If I know the ID of SCSI device (more exactly: bus, ID, LUN) how I can
know has this device startup volume or not?

Thanks,
Leo.
Re: Has this device startup volume?
#4
Author: Leo Possajennikov
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 00:00
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> > If I know the ID of SCSI device (more exactly: bus, ID, LUN) how I can
> > know has this device startup volume or not?

Sorry, it was (and still is) the question for programmers. I'm writing
disk formatting utility and, of course, won't format my startup disk.

Thanks,
Leo
Re: Has this device startup volume?
#7
Author: Simon Wright
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 00:00
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In article <leo-2812952132070001@adinstruments.tmx.com.au>, leo@adi.com.au
(Leo Possajennikov) wrote:

> If I know the ID of SCSI device (more exactly: bus, ID, LUN) how I can
> know has this device startup volume or not?

Leo,

As far as I know, if it has a valid system file & neccessary system stuff,
it can be a boot (startup) volume.  The one selected in the "Startup Disk"
control panel is the current startup volume.


Simon

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Re: Has this device startup volume?
#5
Author: Bill Catambay
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 00:00
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In article <simonjw-0301960838220001@dialup06.odyssey.apana.org.au>,
simonjw@odyssey.apana.org.au (Simon Wright) wrote:

> In article <leo-2812952132070001@adinstruments.tmx.com.au>, leo@adi.com.au
> (Leo Possajennikov) wrote:
> 
> > If I know the ID of SCSI device (more exactly: bus, ID, LUN) how I can
> > know has this device startup volume or not?
> 
> Leo,
> 
> As far as I know, if it has a valid system file & neccessary system stuff,
> it can be a boot (startup) volume.  The one selected in the "Startup Disk"
> control panel is the current startup volume.
> 
> 

There would appear to be more to it than that. Well, at least FWB toolkit
would indicate so.  It formats disks and will flag a disk as bootable if
the user requests.  Does anyone know how to determine whether a partition
is flagged as bootable or not?  And is that truly required?  (or is FWB
just yanking our chains?)

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Re: Has this device startup volume?
#3
Author: Peter Kerr
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 00:00
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The Mac (don't ask me why) requires that the boot sector of a volume
contains certain identifying info for that volume to be bootable, ie. a
startup volume. There are two ways of getting that info onto the boot
sector:
1. Do what FWB (or any similar HD utility) asks and flag the volume as bootable.
or 2. Use the Mac installer to put a System Folder on the volume.

Some HD formatters make all disks bootable, some don't.
If your's doesn't, and you just copy a System Folder onto the volume
without using the Installer, there's a good chance it won't boot.

-- 
Peter Kerr                             bodger
School of Music                        chandler
University of Auckland                 neo-Luddite
Re: Has this device startup volume?
#1
Author: Martin Crisp
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 00:00
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In article <bill-0401961213440001@129.197.20.15>,
bill@clavin.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bill Catambay) wrote:

> In article <simonjw-0301960838220001@dialup06.odyssey.apana.org.au>,
> simonjw@odyssey.apana.org.au (Simon Wright) wrote:
> 
> > In article <leo-2812952132070001@adinstruments.tmx.com.au>, leo@adi.com.au
> > (Leo Possajennikov) wrote:
> > 
> > > If I know the ID of SCSI device (more exactly: bus, ID, LUN) how I can
> > > know has this device startup volume or not?
> > 
> > Leo,
> > 
> > As far as I know, if it has a valid system file & neccessary system stuff,
> > it can be a boot (startup) volume.  The one selected in the "Startup Disk"
> > control panel is the current startup volume.
> > 
> > 
> 
> There would appear to be more to it than that. Well, at least FWB toolkit
> would indicate so.  It formats disks and will flag a disk as bootable if
> the user requests.  Does anyone know how to determine whether a partition
> is flagged as bootable or not?  And is that truly required?  (or is FWB
> just yanking our chains?)

If FWB is just yanking your chain then it's in distinguished company, like
Norton Utilities...

To be a startup volume the volume must have boot blocks installed, if it's
not intended as a startup volume then it doesn't need boot blocks...

Have Fun
Martin

-- 
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My employer wasn't consulted so the above may not be their opinion.

Web stuff:
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Re: Has this device startup volume?
#2
Author: Joerg Erdei
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 00:00
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bill@clavin.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bill Catambay) wrote:
>In article <simonjw-0301960838220001@dialup06.odyssey.apana.org.au>,
>simonjw@odyssey.apana.org.au (Simon Wright) wrote:
>
>> In article <leo-2812952132070001@adinstruments.tmx.com.au>, leo@adi.com.au
>> (Leo Possajennikov) wrote:
>> 
>> > If I know the ID of SCSI device (more exactly: bus, ID, LUN) how I can
>> > know has this device startup volume or not?
>> 
>> Leo,
>> 
>> As far as I know, if it has a valid system file & neccessary system stuff,
>> it can be a boot (startup) volume.  The one selected in the "Startup Disk"
>> control panel is the current startup volume.
>> 
>> 
>
>There would appear to be more to it than that. Well, at least FWB toolkit
>would indicate so.  It formats disks and will flag a disk as bootable if
>the user requests.  Does anyone know how to determine whether a partition
>is flagged as bootable or not?  And is that truly required?  (or is FWB
>just yanking our chains?)

The Mac looks into the boot blocks to determine if a volume is bootable
(= is a startup volume). Most formatters have an option to set the bootable
flag for any drive/partition. Or you could look at the boot blocks using
Norton Editor. 

Joerg Erdei
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