🚀 go-pugleaf

Please! This is not the place to talk about such topics. I'd be happy
to discuss this in talk.politics. I'm sorry I brought it up, let's not
compound the problem by discussing it any further here.

In article <301@tifsie.UUCP> kent@tifsie.UUCP (Russell Kent) writes:
>In article <460@bobkat.UUCP> Perry Smith writes:
>> 
>> In article <14396@amdcad.UUCP> phil@amdcad.UUCP (Phil Ngai) writes:
>>> Social security is welfare for the elderly.
>> 
>> Thats total f-----g g-d d--n b------t!!!!  Welfare people put nothing
>> in and get something out.  The elderly have been force to put money
>> into the pot but are very likely not to get a thing out.
>> -- 
>> Perry Smith
>> {convex!ctvax,{ti-csl,infotel}!pollux}!bobkat!pedz
>
>I have two comments:
> 1) I find your choice of phrasing _extremly_ offensive.  I also
>    recognize that you seem to feel _very_ strongly on the
>    subject.  Could I prevail upon you to be more judicious in
>    your choice of words in the future?
>
> 2) I do not know what the dropout rate for SS is (i.e how often does it
>    occur that a potential beneficiary never receives benefits).  I do
>    know that those who do live to collect, receive more benefits (even
>    when calculated in constant-dollar figures) than they paid in to SS.
>    If the "definition" of welfare is to receive funds in ways other
>    than conventional earning, then SS is indeed often (but not always)
>    welfare.
>
>
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