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Re: fidonet <-> usenet

#434
From: pozar
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1987 15:42
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In article <3380002@nucsrl.UUCP> gore@nucsrl.UUCP (Jacob Gore) writes:
>>>	I can imagen the following:
>>>
>>>			Honzo.Svasek@333.500.FIDO
>> [...]
>>
>>    I see the addressing working like this:
>>
>>     user_name@NODEn.NETn.ZONEn.FIDO.NET     or 
>>     Tim_Pozar@NODE406.NET125.ZONE1.FIDO.NET
>>
>>    This takes care of two problems.  
>>    1]  Smart mailers could route to the nearest Fido Gateway.
>>    2]  If additional areas get added (such as POINTs) it can be added
>>        with out screwing up the gateway.  
>
>The whole beauty of Internet addresses (as I see it) is that they hide the
>networking details.  What network(s) is "prep.AI.MIT.Edu" on?  (That's a
>rhetorical question (:-))
>
>"Smart" mailers can figure out how to send to a host without having a network
>name inplanted into the address.  It would be nice if Fido hosts could fit
>into this scheme.
>

    I forgot one more reason to add the domain name to the front...
       3]  A RFC (which on was it Erik?) stated that domains must lead off
           with a alpha charicter, not a number.

    Fido hosts are not the culprits here.  It is how the Net(fido) is 
structured and how the gateway is implemented.
    Here is a question to your question.  Where do these two pieces of 
mail go?
        user_name@10.2.135.FIDO.NET 
  or    user_name@10.101.2.FIDO.NET
    The first could go to point10, node2, net135, and the second could go
to node10, net101, zone2.  The problem is that a "2" could be a zone, net,
node, or point (and now someone proposed even regions and hubs as seperate
levels!)  How can smart mailers parse this when I can't?  If I receive
the first address I would asssume that he wants it to stay in the United 
States (zone 1) since zones haven't gone over the one digit numbers yet.   
    Are writers of smart mailers going to write all of the possiblities into
their mailers?   Doubtful.  Having the explicit name for the level of each
domain can be parsed much cleaner.  What we're trying to do is have UUCP
mailers handle fido mail and fido mailers handle uucp style mail.  The 
two systems are not entirely different, but they are significantly different
to need to use each other a little different to insure the flow of mail.
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From: pozar@hoptoad.UUCP
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Subject: Re: fidonet <-> usenet
Message-ID: <1989@hoptoad.uucp>
Date: Tue, 14-Apr-87 10:42:18 EST
Article-I.D.: hoptoad.1989
Posted: Tue Apr 14 10:42:18 1987
Date-Received: Thu, 16-Apr-87 01:09:52 EST
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