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Started by .EDUbrl-adm.arpabrl-adm.arpabrl-...
Sun, 08 May 1988 20:03
Forwarded mail headers
Author: .EDUbrl-adm.arpabrl-adm.arpabrl-...
Date: Sun, 08 May 1988 20:03
Date: Sun, 08 May 1988 20:03
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I am trying to find out how forwarded mail messages are 'supposed' to look when they appear in net land. Currently, when my work mailer forwards one message to someone else, it is enveloped in a mail heading which says that the message was forwarde by me to the individual. But I am seeing recently messages from folks who claim that their mailer is rfc822 (?) compatible which does the following: Article 4143 of comp.sys.apple: Path: n8emr!osu-cis!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!husc6!think!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!SHARK.NOSC.MIL!MEDIN-T From: MEDIN-T@SHARK.NOSC.MIL (Ted Medin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple Subject: Re: 2nd try Message-ID: <M1988$004590.MEDIN-T.MEDIN-T@SHARK.NOSC.MIL> Date: 5 May 88 23:03:58 GMT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 4 I forgot whoever asked for this but here's a response I got from Ted Medin. --chris ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- The latest version of blu works on all 2's. ============================ Note that the above message was forwarded (reference to a chris and a line stating Original message) yet there is nothing in the header as it arrived here that indicates WHO originally mailed this message. This has been happening to me now for about 1-2 weeks. I know of at least one site that specifically is running this mailing pgm. They claim that their mail is fine - in fact, when messages end up on their mailing list (info- apple?) it has a Resent-By: header line. But somewhere in the translation to uucp/usenet it loses this line. This also happens when private mail crosses from the site into usenet/uucp land. Any ideas on whether there is a rogue site or if perhaps the originating sites have a problem? Thanks! -- Larry W. Virden 75046,606 (CIS) 674 Falls Place, Reynoldsburg, OH 43068 (614) 864-8817 osu-cis!n8emr!lwv (UUCP) osu-cis!n8emr!lwv@TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (BITNET) We haven't inherited the world from our parents, but borrowed it from our children.
Re: Forwarded mail headers
Author: Dik T. Winter
Date: Mon, 09 May 1988 00:28
Date: Mon, 09 May 1988 00:28
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(The subject is quite apt.) We (and probably everybody) received a number of articles in comp.mail.headers a number of times. The base article came here with the following paths in the headers (split across lines for your edification): 1. > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!bloom-beacon!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!osu-cis!n8emr!lwv 2. > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!mailrus!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!osu-cis!n8emr! > lwv@TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU 3. > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!mailrus!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!osu-cis!n8emr! > lwv%TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU@brl-adm.arpa 4. > Path: mcvax!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm! > osu-cis!n8emr!lwv%TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU%brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm.arpa 5. > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!osu-cis!n8emr! > lwv%TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm.arpa 6. > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!osu-cis!n8emr! > lwv%TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa@ > brl-adm.arpa 7. > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!osu-cis!n8emr! > lwv%TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa% > brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm.arpa 8. > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!osu-cis! > n8emr!lwv%TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa% > brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm.arpa 9. > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm! > osu-cis!n8emr!lwv%TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa% > brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm.arpa 10. > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm! > osu-cis!n8emr!lwv%TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa% > brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa@ > brl-adm.arpa 11. > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm! > adm!osu-cis!n8emr!lwv%TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa% > brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa% > brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm (Where is the final .arpa? I cannot reply to this!) 12. > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm! > adm!adm!osu-cis!n8emr!lwv%TUT.CIS.OHIO-STATE.EDU%brl-adm.arpa% > brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa% > brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%@BRL.ARPA (A subtle variation.) It is getting a bit repetitious, and not only in the header. Without evidence to the contrary, I believe there is a problem at brl-adm. Of course, the followup has undergone the same massaging, but the subject changed too: 1. > Subject: \"forwarded mail format\" > Path: mcvax!uunet!lll-winken!lll-tis!ames!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm! > jsol@bu-it.bu.edu 2. > Subject: \\"forwarded mail format\\" > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!jsol%bu-it.bu.edu@brl-adm.arpa 3. > Subject: \\\"forwarded mail format\\\" > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!jsol%bu-it.bu.edu% > brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm.arpa 4. > Subject: \\\\"forwarded mail format\\\\" > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!jsol%bu-it.bu.edu% > brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm.arpa 5. > Subject: \\\\\"forwarded mail format\\\\\" > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!jsol%bu-it.bu.edu% > brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm.arpa 6. > Subject: \\\\\\"forwarded mail format\\\\\\" > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!mailrus!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm! > adm!jsol%bu-it.bu.edu%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa% > brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm.arpa 7. > Subject: \\\\\\\"forwarded mail format\\\\\\\" > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm! > jsol%bu-it.bu.edu%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa% > brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm.arpa 8. > Subject: \\\\\\\\"forwarded mail format\\\\\\\\" > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!nrl-cmf!ames!umd5!brl-adm!adm!adm!adm!adm!adm! > adm!adm!adm!jsol%bu-it.bu.edu%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa% > brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa%brl-adm.arpa@brl-adm.arpa Until now we got only 8 of those; still more to come I believe. Of course, this was not all; there was the standard message from some postmaster who couldn't deliver his stuff and replied to the mailing list. This one starts just drippling in; we only got 2: 1. > Subject: [postmaster@utadnx.cc.utexas.edu: Mail Delivery Problem] > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!jsol@bu-it.bu.edu (Why this path? I would expect it to come from postmaster.) 2. > Subject: [postmaster@utadnx.cc.utexas.edu: Mail Delivery Problem] > Path: mcvax!uunet!husc6!mailrus!nrl-cmf!cmcl2!brl-adm!adm!adm! > jsol%bu-it.bu.edu@brl-adm.arpa Now I am waiting for some postmaster to think he cannot deliver this mail from a postmaster, and sends back to the mailing list. It looks like an explosion. Is this an attempt to clutter up the network (something like a verification of the load it can handle?). (How many times will I see my article?) -- dik t. winter, cwi, amsterdam, nederland INTERNET : dik@cwi.nl BITNET/EARN: dik@mcvax
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