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Started by Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)
Mon, 07 Sep 1992 20:31
I need to add an "Originally-From:" header to my mailing list posts.
Author: Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 20:31
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 20:31
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Apologies in advance for the newbie question, but the sendmail man page was not helpful about this. I run a mailing list out of this machine called sfraves, with about 215 users. Right now the "From:" line reads "sfraves-request", so that only I will have to deal with MAILER DAEMON problems and not the original writer of whatever gets posted to the list. On most machines, the name and address of the original writer does stay in the header, so people can tell who wrote a particular post. However, some mail programs seem to strip away that second "From:" line, so that every piece of mail seems to come from "sfraves-request", and the real writer's name is unknown. So, I would like to add an "Originator:" or "Originally From:" line to every post that goes through the sfraves alias, so that those people with the messed-up mail programs can still see who the original writer is, with bounced messages still going to sfraves-request. How would I go about doing this? It would be much preferable if it were simply some option to the "|/usr/lib/sendmail -odp -oi -fsfraves-request..." line in my /usr/lib/aliases. Thank you in advance, Brian
Re: I need to add an "Originally-From:" header to my mailing list posts.
Author: Steven D. Majewski
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 14:30
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 14:30
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In article <18ge7eINN6r9@agate.berkeley.edu> bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes:
> Apologies in advance for the newbie question, but the sendmail man
>page was not helpful about this. I run a mailing list out of this machine
>called sfraves, with about 215 users. Right now the "From:" line reads
>"sfraves-request", so that only I will have to deal with MAILER DAEMON
>problems and not the original writer of whatever gets posted to the list.
>On most machines, the name and address of the original writer does stay in
>the header, so people can tell who wrote a particular post. However, some
>mail programs seem to strip away that second "From:" line, so that every
>piece of mail seems to come from "sfraves-request", and the real writer's
>name is unknown. So, I would like to add an "Originator:" or "Originally
>From:" line to every post that goes through the sfraves alias, so that
>those people with the messed-up mail programs can still see who the original
>writer is, with bounced messages still going to sfraves-request.
>
From: originator@some.where
Resent-From: sfraves-request@other.place
Might possibly work, but RFC-822 specifically bypasses the precedence issue:
Use of such precedence information depends upon partici-
pants' communication needs. For example, this standard does not
dictate when a "Resent-From:" address should receive replies, in
lieu of sending them to the "From:" address.
Another possible format is:
From: originator@some.where
Sender: sfraves-request@other.place
Reply-To: sfraves@other.place
This would probably work in the manner you want ( Again, quote from rfc822 ):
4.4.4. AUTOMATIC USE OF FROM / SENDER / REPLY-TO
For systems which automatically generate address lists for
replies to messages, the following recommendations are made:
o The "Sender" field mailbox should be sent notices of
any problems in transport or delivery of the original
messages. If there is no "Sender" field, then the
"From" field mailbox should be used.
o The "Sender" field mailbox should NEVER be used
automatically, in a recipient's reply message.
o If the "Reply-To" field exists, then the reply should
go to the addresses indicated in that field and not to
the address(es) indicated in the "From" field.
o If there is a "From" field, but no "Reply-To" field,
the reply should be sent to the address(es) indicated
in the "From" field.
Sometimes, a recipient may actually wish to communicate with
the person that initiated the message transfer. In such
cases, it is reasonable to use the "Sender" address.
This recommendation is intended only for automated use of
originator-fields and is not intended to suggest that replies
may not also be sent to other recipients of messages. It is
up to the respective mail-handling programs to decide what
additional facilities will be provided.
-Ref: RFC # 822 (Obsoletes: RFC #733)
STANDARD FOR THE FORMAT OF ARPA INTERNET TEXT MESSAGES
August 13, 1982, Revised by David H. Crocker
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Steven D. Majewski University of Virginia Physiology Dept.
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Re: I need to add an "Originally-From:" header to my mailing list posts.
Author: Erik Naggum
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 14:43
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 14:43
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Steven D. Majewski <sdm7g@aemsun.med.Virginia.EDU> writes:
|
| Another possible format is:
|
| From: originator@some.where
| Sender: sfraves-request@other.place
| Reply-To: sfraves@other.place
Please don't. This causes a large number of misaddressed messages, and
makes naive users unnecessarily involved in headers, since they can't
reply to the author without replying to the whole list.
This problem is compounded if the messages is crossposted to several
lists.
We should have learned from BITNET listservers by now, although they
seem to be very hard dying.
Best regards,
</Erik>
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