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Started by jpaul
Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:11
New date format (year) ?
Author: jpaul
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:11
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:11
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-- Hello every body, I have seen that on sendmail 5.65 it seems that the year in the date field is writen with 4 digits : ex : in 5.61 : Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:08:02 +0200 in 5.65 : Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:08:02 +0200 I presume this is not a hazard : year 2000 is comming and it is probably the reason of that change. But this causes me a problem on a gateway which is not able to manage that format. And I would like to know if there an RFC or some think concerning this before submitting the problem to the gateway's programmer. Thanks per advance, Best regards, -------------------------------- Jean-Paul OLIVIER Email : J.P.Olivier@frso.bull.fr BULL.S.A. Phone : (1) 49 45 50 40 20, rue Dieumegard bullcom : 222 5040 93406 SAINT-OUEN CEDEX fax : (1) 49 45 53 36 France
Re: New date format (year) ?
Author: Erik Naggum
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:27
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:27
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jpaul@gwx400A.bull.fr writes:
|
|
| I have seen that on sendmail 5.65 it seems that the year in the date
| field is writen with 4 digits :
|
| ex :
| in 5.61 :
| Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:08:02 +0200
|
| in 5.65 :
| Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:08:02 +0200
|
| I presume this is not a hazard : year 2000 is comming and it is probably
| the reason of that change.
Actually, RFC 822 changed the allowed 4-digit year specication of RFC
733 into a required 2-digit year specification. This was of course
needlessly short-sighted, and the problem was fixed in RFC 1123, which
says, in section 5.2.14:
All mail software SHOULD use 4-digit years in dates, to ease
the transition to the next century.
| But this causes me a problem on a gateway which is not able to manage
| that format. And I would like to know if there an RFC or some think
| concerning this before submitting the problem to the gateway's
| programmer.
RFC 1123 should be all you need. The gateway programmer should be shot
for being so foolish as to not accept four-digit years to begin with.
The same applies to automatic date conversion utilities which don't
understand date specifications like
Thursday, 20 August 1992
which some BITNET sites are wont to send out (clue: ignore the rest of
the word after you've recognized the three first letters).
Best regards,
</Erik>
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Re: New date format (year) ?
Author: Andy Linton
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:15
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:15
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In article <129@bull.bull.fr>, jpaul@gwx400A.bull.fr writes:
|>
|> --
|>
|> Hello every body,
|>
|> I have seen that on sendmail 5.65 it seems that the year in the date field
is writen with 4 digits :
|>
|> ex :
|> in 5.61 :
|> Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:08:02 +0200
|>
|> in 5.65 :
|> Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:08:02 +0200
|>
|> I presume this is not a hazard : year 2000 is comming and it is probably the
reason of that change.
|>
|> But this causes me a problem on a gateway which is not able to manage that
format. And I would like to know if there an RFC or some think concerning this
before submitting the problem to the gateway's programmer.
In RFC 1123 - Requirements for Internet Hosts -- Application and Support:
5.2.14 RFC-822 Date and Time Specification: RFC-822 Section 5
The syntax for the date is hereby changed to:
date = 1*2DIGIT month 2*4DIGIT
All mail software SHOULD use 4-digit years in dates, to ease
the transition to the next century.
There is a strong trend towards the use of numeric timezone
indicators, and implementations SHOULD use numeric timezones
instead of timezone names. However, all implementations MUST
accept either notation. If timezone names are used, they MUST
be exactly as defined in RFC-822.
The military time zones are specified incorrectly in RFC-822:
they count the wrong way from UT (the signs are reversed). As
a result, military time zones in RFC-822 headers carry no
information.
Finally, note that there is a typo in the definition of "zone"
in the syntax summary of appendix D; the correct definition
occurs in Section 3 of RFC-822.
Re: New date format (year) ?
Author: Michael Storz
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:50
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:50
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In article <129@bull.bull.fr>, jpaul@gwx400A.bull.fr writes:
|>
|> --
|>
|> Hello every body,
|>
|> I have seen that on sendmail 5.65 it seems that the year in the date field
|> is writen with 4 digits :
|>
|> ex :
|> in 5.61 :
|> Tue, 18 Aug 92 12:08:02 +0200
|>
|> in 5.65 :
|> Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:08:02 +0200
|>
|> I presume this is not a hazard : year 2000 is comming and it is probably the
|> reason of that change.
|>
|> But this causes me a problem on a gateway which is not able to manage that
|> format. And I would like to know if there an RFC or some think concerning
|> this before submitting the problem to the gateway's programmer.
The answer is: RFC 1123
5.2.14 RFC-822 Date and Time Specification: RFC-822 Section 5
The syntax for the date is hereby changed to:
date = 1*2DIGIT month 2*4DIGIT
All mail software SHOULD use 4-digit years in dates, to ease
the transition to the next century.
There is a strong trend towards the use of numeric timezone
indicators, and implementations SHOULD use numeric timezones
instead of timezone names. However, all implementations MUST
accept either notation. If timezone names are used, they MUST
be exactly as defined in RFC-822.
The military time zones are specified incorrectly in RFC-822:
they count the wrong way from UT (the signs are reversed). As
a result, military time zones in RFC-822 headers carry no
information.
Finally, note that there is a typo in the definition of "zone"
in the syntax summary of appendix D; the correct definition
occurs in Section 3 of RFC-822.
Most software is not able to handle this at the moment, but it begins to
change.
|>
|> Thanks per advance,
|> Best regards,
|> -------------------------------- Jean-Paul OLIVIER
|> Email : J.P.Olivier@frso.bull.fr BULL.S.A.
|> Phone : (1) 49 45 50 40 20, rue Dieumegard
|> bullcom : 222 5040 93406 SAINT-OUEN CEDEX
|> fax : (1) 49 45 53 36 France
--
Michael Storz
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