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Re: The Machine that changed the world

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From: Daniel P. Faigin
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 08:18
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On 3 Oct 92 22:08:55 GMT, cjackso@uswnvg.com (Clay Jackson) said:

> Well, since you asked - $450 is a crying shame!  It's also a ripoff, AND
> (IMHO) an indication of a lot of what's wrong with ACM these days. 

First of all, before you jump on the price, let's get an actual price list.

Secondly, although ACM was a sponsor, that in no way makes them a producer, or
involves them in the pricing of the finished product. That's up to the actual
producer of the beast; I'm pretty sure that ACM doesn't see a cent of profit
from the sales of the videotapes -- that goes to public television, if anyone.

> Please don't give us any nonsense about 
> copyrights, or costs of production, or whatever -  this was produced
> by (supposedly) PUBLIC TV, with DONATED (supposedly) funds. 

And these funds go for the production of a single copy, probably on 3/4" Beta,
for PBS to air. Production of the videotapes is a separate production run,
requires appropriate tooling and reproduction costs, label production,
packaging, etc. ACM didn't pay for that.

> If Disney
> can sell it's classics for roughly $10/hour (a typical Disney movie
> runs about 2 hours, and costs about $20), 

Disney also has a lot of marketing clout, and a video production facility
designed for such production, and sells in retail outlets to get large sales.
I doubt that the number of copies of "Dumbo" sold is as low as typical PBS
videocassette sales.

Daniel
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Subject: Re: The Machine that changed the world
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:18:54
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