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In article <1992Dec15.143628.4673@spcvxb.spc.edu>, killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen) writes:

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> Terry most of upper level DECUS leadership has become very interested in input
> from the customer.  In fact we have some very solid organized research efforts
> going on right now.  However if we are going to be honest most of the postings
> on this subject have been from DECUS Leaders/insiders trying to incite a riot
> to reverse a decision they did not agree with.  Very little has been heard
> from the membership/customer.  Prior to yours - the one membership type
> posting was so vitriolic, so full of obscenities, and so much a general knee
> jerk attack that did not relate to the issue at hand IMHO I am surprised
> anyone responded to it. 
As one who responded earlier on this meeting, I take offense.  I do not
consider myself an insider (yes I helped activate the RTP LUG many, many years
ago, but have not been in any kind of "leadership" role in about ten years),
and my response contained no obscenities, and was not knee jerk.  It did
represent considerable frustration with the situation and the process.

Much of my frustration is centered around the fact that DECUS grew in a way
very much similar to how DEC did.  It went from being very much a grass roots
effort with local and/or technical focus to something more centralized, less
responsive, and more bureaucratic.  That may partly just reflect how the
industry and DEC changed during the corresponding period.  Now the industry is
changing rapidly, often becoming more like it used to be.  DECUS is faced with
that same mandate.

While I consider myself an active member of DECUS, I don't attend every
symposium like I did for a while, now only one every couple of years.  I also
partcipate in the Unisys and HP user groups and that gives me a little
different perspective.   My organization does attend the national symposia more
regularly than I do.

Maybe the thing most disturbing about this entire discussion is how obvious it
is how great the chasm is between DECUS leadership and the general membership. 
Nearly every posting by someone from the leadership side reinforces that view.

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> Jeff Killeen - DECUS U.S. Chapter NLC Chair | Email:killeen@eisner.decus.org
> 
> DECUS is for folks who are responsible for delivering computing technology.
> The NLC is the national council for DECUS's Local User Groups - come join us!

Arthur Coston
Applied Information Systems
arthur@ais.com