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Re: EXECUTION of DECUS Standards

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From: A virtually vegetal non-entity
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:04
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I just wanted to point out some errors in Lester's note of 15-Dec:

In article <1992Dec15.192557.13119@cpu.com>, gwlester@cpu.com writes...
>In article <1992Dec14.151045@mccall.com>, tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot) writes:
>>
>>It should perhaps be made clear to the membership that they only get to vote on
>>the membership of the BOD. Other representative units of DECUS are elected
>>solely by the leadership. 
> 
>	It might avoid some confusion, but the statement is **WRONG**!!
>At least the L&T and 3P SIG chairs are elected by the general membership at
>their respective Open SIG Steering Committe meetings members (not restricted
>to leaders) present.  

Nonsense.  An election has to have some basic elements to make it other
than a fraud.  This would include pre-notification (i.e., "there is going
to be an election") and open voting at least.  Having an election which
no one knows about and only people who happen to be at a particularly
uninteresting meeting at a national Symposium is NOT an election.  It's a
farce.  Now, if there were pre-announcement, nominations, campaigning,
and an ability to absentee-ballot, that would be different.  

Gerald: face it.  Terry is right, and you're wrong.  No amount of
nit-picking (as I'm sure will continue in this conference) is going to
change the facts: the leadership is a small number of people in a society
which cannot even decide what it means to be a member.  Decisions are made
by the leadership, not by the as-yet-undefined members of the society.  

You can make a value judgement about whether that's good or bad, but the
point is it's true.  And asking Terry to become an active leader just to
express his opinion is complete nonsense.


>	You are very much a minority.  The news letter subscription was about
>2% of the membership and a good number of subscribers had/have either or both
>DECUServe or DCS accounts.

2%?  Where did you get that number?  If we figure that the membership is
composed of the entire DECUSCOPE mailing list, put it back at 15%.  Which
doesn't count pass-alongs.  But does include about 20,000 people who are on
the mailing list but have no current (or probably even past) interest in
DECUS.   

jms

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From: jms@carat.arizona.edu (A virtually vegetal non-entity)
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Subject: Re: EXECUTION of DECUS Standards
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Date: 16 Dec 92 22:04:00 GMT
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