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In article <1992Dec18.113310.1073@beckman.com>, dsroberts@beckman.com writes...
>In article <18DEC199210451163@rover.uchicago.edu>, frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger) writes:
>> 	BINGO Clyde hit the nail on the head. ('cept he left out a couple
>> 	of people I know who don't like any of the above.) You can't please
>> 	'em all. Example. Should an electronic version of the newsletter be:
>> 
>> (various options here)
>Actually the problem I see, and it occurs every time discussions like this come
>up, is that the ONLY acceptable solutions (be it newsletters or leadership
>communication or whatever) are those that satisfy everybody.  This is an
>attitude problem on the part of leadership.  You're asking the wrong question
>here, Frank.  The question should be why don't we provide what we can now with
>the resources we have available and provide more as we can?

	No, but I do think a solution should satisfy a reasonably large portion
	of the membership, without putting a large load on the existing people.
	Your answer provides a beautiful example. You want the NEWS version
	because you have access. If we do that we gore the users without a news
	feed. (Personally I feel most for the little guys, who can't read news
	and FTP to 47 godzillion other places to get the latest software.)
> 
>IF it can be done at little or no cost, but it satisfies the needs for SOME
>DECUS members, why not do it?  Why should the fact that this solution doesn't
>address some OTHER members needs stop this solution from being implemented?
> 
	Nothing can be done at "little or no cost." The MAJOR cost is always
	our shortest commedity, volunteer time. Don't tell me "It's easy to
	do that, I can set it up in no time..." You must tell me, "I will
	provide volunteer so-and-so to do it, and my SIG/NLC/whatever will
	promise to provide a continuing series of volunteers to run this after
	mr/mz so-and-so gets tired of doing it."

>DCS to NEWS is another example of this.  This can be done only for the cost of
>running a newserver on either DCS or DECUServe.  

	Who's gonna run it? Who's gonna fix it when it breaks? Who's gonna
	decide what to feed to NEWS? (Feed all DCS messages? or only DCS
	notes?) How will you set up the feed? Dump everything into one
	large .vms.DECUS.DCS group?)

	Ok folks, it ain't the cost, its the upkeep that's the bummer.

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