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Re: Ubuntu erased my whole hard drive

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From: dennis
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:21
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"Unruh" <unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca> wrote in message 
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> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> writes:
>
>
>>"Unruh" <unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca> wrote in message
>>news:fzrSi.22002$GO5.6664@edtnps90...
>>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:%23QMATTYEIHA.3332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>
>>>>8<
>>>
>>>>Anyway we will forget licenses as that is irrelevant.
>>>
>>>>Having downloaded Ubuntu 7.10 and finally got it to start installing I
>>>>notice that I get the same warning screen (identical AFAICS) if I select
>>>>use
>>>>the whole disk or if I select use the biggest free space.
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>The partition tables of the following devices are changed:
>>>>SCSI1 (0,0,0)(sda)
>>>
>>>>The following partitions are going to be formatted:
>>>>partition #1 of SCSI1(,0,0)(sda) as ext3
>>>>partition #5 of SCSI1(0,0,0)(sda) as swap
>>>><<<<<<<<<
>>>
>>>>For use entire disk
>>>
>>>>and
>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>The partition tables of the following devices are changed:
>>>>SCSI1 (0,0,0)(sda)
>>>
>>>>The following partitions are going to be formatted:
>>>>partition #1 of SCSI1(0,0,0)(sda) as ext3
>>>>partition #5 of SCSI1(0,0,0)(sda) as swap
>>>
>>>><<<<<<<<<<<
>>>
>>>
>>>>For use largest free space.
>>>
>>>
>>>>One will erase my windows server 2008 one won't.
>>>
>>>>Does anyone still think the warnings are OK?
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem is NOT there. There problem is when the partitions were
>>> created. Once they have been createdi so as to cover your Win partition,
>>> the ball game is over.
>>> The place that the warning should occur is when you tell it to use the
>>> whole disk.
>>>
>>>
>>As they are the warnings they are the problem.
>>There may be a need for more warnings or just a better partitioner but 
>>that
>>is an addition.
>
> No. Once you have repartitioned the disk, the data from you win partition
> is gone. defunct, non-existant. formatting the disk is irrelevant. It was
> the repartitioning that destroyed the windows data. (Yes, I know that the
> data is still there and that IF you managed to repartition the disk again
> to exactly the same as it was before, you could recover the data, but that
> is largely irrelevant to almost all users. It is the partitioning that
> destroys the ability to access the data). Thus if there is no warning on
> the repartitioning then that is where the problem lies.
>
>

Linux sets up the partitions in ram, then asks a few more questions and then 
applies the changes.
It is at the point just before it applies the changes that it puts up the 
warning about destroying data.
If you abort no changes are made (or none are supposed to be made, I have 
not checked myself).
Its just that the warnings are inadequate for the majority of users and in 
the case of Ubuntu 7.10 wrong. 
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