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Re: Ubuntu erased my whole hard drive

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From: Rick
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:47
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:21:46 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

> "Unruh" <unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca> wrote in message
> news:G%tSi.22040$GO5.20439@edtnps90...
>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> writes:
>>
>>
>>>"Unruh" <unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca> wrote in message
>>>news:fzrSi.22002$GO5.6664@edtnps90...
>>>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:%23QMATTYEIHA.3332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>8<
>>>>
>>>>>Anyway we will forget licenses as that is irrelevant.
>>>>
>>>>>Having downloaded Ubuntu 7.10 and finally got it to start installing
>>>>>I notice that I get the same warning screen (identical AFAICS) if I
>>>>>select use
>>>>>the whole disk or if I select use the biggest free space.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The partition tables of the following devices are changed: SCSI1
>>>>>(0,0,0)(sda)
>>>>
>>>>>The following partitions are going to be formatted: partition #1 of
>>>>>SCSI1(,0,0)(sda) as ext3 partition #5 of SCSI1(0,0,0)(sda) as swap
>>>>><<<<<<<<<
>>>>
>>>>>For use entire disk
>>>>
>>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>The partition tables of the following devices are changed: SCSI1
>>>>>(0,0,0)(sda)
>>>>
>>>>>The following partitions are going to be formatted: partition #1 of
>>>>>SCSI1(0,0,0)(sda) as ext3 partition #5 of SCSI1(0,0,0)(sda) as swap
>>>>
>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>For use largest free space.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>One will erase my windows server 2008 one won't.
>>>>
>>>>>Does anyone still think the warnings are OK?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The problem is NOT there. There problem is when the partitions were
>>>> created. Once they have been createdi so as to cover your Win
>>>> partition, the ball game is over.
>>>> The place that the warning should occur is when you tell it to use
>>>> the whole disk.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>As they are the warnings they are the problem. There may be a need for
>>>more warnings or just a better partitioner but that
>>>is an addition.
>>
>> No. Once you have repartitioned the disk, the data from you win
>> partition is gone. defunct, non-existant. formatting the disk is
>> irrelevant. It was the repartitioning that destroyed the windows data.
>> (Yes, I know that the data is still there and that IF you managed to
>> repartition the disk again to exactly the same as it was before, you
>> could recover the data, but that is largely irrelevant to almost all
>> users. It is the partitioning that destroys the ability to access the
>> data). Thus if there is no warning on the repartitioning then that is
>> where the problem lies.
>>
>>
>>
> Linux sets up the partitions in ram, then asks a few more questions and
> then applies the changes.

No, the user applies the changes.

> It is at the point just before it applies the changes that it puts up
> the warning about destroying data.
> If you abort no changes are made (or none are supposed to be made, I
> have not checked myself).
> Its just that the warnings are inadequate for the majority of users and
> in the case of Ubuntu 7.10 wrong.

Then maybe those users should not be installing operating systems.

-- 
Rick
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Subject: Re: Ubuntu erased my whole hard drive
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