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Article #135Re: Ubuntu erased my whole hard drive
From: Rick
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:47
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:47
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On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 22:21:46 +0100, dennis@home wrote: > "Unruh" <unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca> wrote in message > news:G%tSi.22040$GO5.20439@edtnps90... >> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> writes: >> >> >>>"Unruh" <unruh-spam@physics.ubc.ca> wrote in message >>>news:fzrSi.22002$GO5.6664@edtnps90... >>>> "dennis@home" <dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> writes: >>>> >>>> >>>>>"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:%23QMATTYEIHA.3332@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> >>>> >>>>>8< >>>> >>>>>Anyway we will forget licenses as that is irrelevant. >>>> >>>>>Having downloaded Ubuntu 7.10 and finally got it to start installing >>>>>I notice that I get the same warning screen (identical AFAICS) if I >>>>>select use >>>>>the whole disk or if I select use the biggest free space. >>>> >>>> >>>>>The partition tables of the following devices are changed: SCSI1 >>>>>(0,0,0)(sda) >>>> >>>>>The following partitions are going to be formatted: partition #1 of >>>>>SCSI1(,0,0)(sda) as ext3 partition #5 of SCSI1(0,0,0)(sda) as swap >>>>><<<<<<<<< >>>> >>>>>For use entire disk >>>> >>>>>and >>>> >>>> >>>>>The partition tables of the following devices are changed: SCSI1 >>>>>(0,0,0)(sda) >>>> >>>>>The following partitions are going to be formatted: partition #1 of >>>>>SCSI1(0,0,0)(sda) as ext3 partition #5 of SCSI1(0,0,0)(sda) as swap >>>> >>>>><<<<<<<<<<< >>>> >>>> >>>>>For use largest free space. >>>> >>>> >>>>>One will erase my windows server 2008 one won't. >>>> >>>>>Does anyone still think the warnings are OK? >>>> >>>> >>>> The problem is NOT there. There problem is when the partitions were >>>> created. Once they have been createdi so as to cover your Win >>>> partition, the ball game is over. >>>> The place that the warning should occur is when you tell it to use >>>> the whole disk. >>>> >>>> >>>As they are the warnings they are the problem. There may be a need for >>>more warnings or just a better partitioner but that >>>is an addition. >> >> No. Once you have repartitioned the disk, the data from you win >> partition is gone. defunct, non-existant. formatting the disk is >> irrelevant. It was the repartitioning that destroyed the windows data. >> (Yes, I know that the data is still there and that IF you managed to >> repartition the disk again to exactly the same as it was before, you >> could recover the data, but that is largely irrelevant to almost all >> users. It is the partitioning that destroys the ability to access the >> data). Thus if there is no warning on the repartitioning then that is >> where the problem lies. >> >> >> > Linux sets up the partitions in ram, then asks a few more questions and > then applies the changes. No, the user applies the changes. > It is at the point just before it applies the changes that it puts up > the warning about destroying data. > If you abort no changes are made (or none are supposed to be made, I > have not checked myself). > Its just that the warnings are inadequate for the majority of users and > in the case of Ubuntu 7.10 wrong. Then maybe those users should not be installing operating systems. -- Rick
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