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Steve,
    I resubmitted the announcement about the GNuware SourceIT release because I feel you are making a mistake by not publicizing the site.  I know of many
people who would be happy to know of the GNUware source due to the slowness or utter lack of an Internet connection on their side.  For them, Linux source code
is sometimes unattainable.  I have written to a large number of people of Malaysia, for example, who do not have the Internet connectivity to test all the
programs you publish to your site.  GNuware offers the option for bartering or making a comparable exchange to those people in less-developed countries.  For
example, one customer from Russia with no means of transmitting hard currency to GNUware for a CD, offered a small Matroishka doll for a GNUware CD.  He
received the CD and is ready to make a trade for the latest release.
    How does GNUware differ from the other Linux releases published on your site?  Linux Weekly News seems to feel GNUware important enough to announce as do
many other Linux sites, yet Freshmeat continues to deny letting others know about a resource that offers a wide collection of Linux source code for
redistribution in hard copy rather than by downloading it through your site.
    When I mentioned downloading the source code on the announcement, which you deleted again, I was referring to the manner in which users can download the
source code from off the CD onto their hard drive for their own use.  This could have been better explained had you permitted the publication of this
information via freshmeat.net.
    Why will you accept the posting of other commercial CD releases on your site and not those of GNUware?
    How are people ever going to start using Linux software without the possibility of accessing the software?  How will Linux move forward if people must
continue to rely on your site for the sole source of Linux software and news?  This becomes especially problematic when your site experiences problems with the
MySQL server as I experienced numerous times on Thursday, March 9, 2000 and was unable to access any information whatsoever.
    I feel strongly that others around the world, who do not enjoy the high bandwidth that many of us now take for granted, cannot use or access even a
fraction of the Linux source code now available.  For example, in Germany regular telephone use is charged by the minute.  There is no flat rate for Internet
use via a modem.  Every time you access the Internet you are charged by the minute.  This makes large or numerous downloads expensive and impractical.  GNUware
simply tries to make this available to them.  The cost of the CD covers GNUware's operating costs.  It requires money to purchase the blank CDs, pay for
Internet service, purchase a secure certificate, etc, all without advertising on the GNUware website.
    Funny, freshmeat always seemed so agreeable in the past to help distribute information and let others decide what was news-worthy before it was purchased
by Andover.  Perhaps Freshmeat has forgotten who its readers are or what Linux users would really like to use.
    I hope you will reconsider your decision to not post GNUware releases to your site.  We are both, after all, in the business of promoting Linux.  I hope
someday to see Linux be the dominant operating system on not only all major servers but desktops as well.  An OS offers very little without software.
Sincerely,
Kerry

P.S.  Perhaps a copy of this posting to the newsgroups will help the Linux readers decide what should be posted in the spirit of open-source..


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Steve Killen wrote:

> FYI, we had previously removed this appindex from freshmeat.  I'm removing it again, as it does not belong in freshmeat per se; there's nothing to download.
>
> Sincerely
> Steve Killen <skille1@gl.umbc.edu>

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Steve,
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I resubmitted the announcement about the GNuware
SourceIT release because I feel you are making a mistake by not publicizing
the site.&nbsp; I know of many people who would be happy to know of the
GNUware source due to the slowness or utter lack of an Internet connection
on their side.&nbsp; For them, Linux source code is sometimes unattainable.&nbsp;
I have written to a large number of people of Malaysia, for example, who
do not have the Internet connectivity to test all the programs you publish
to your site.&nbsp; GNuware offers the option for bartering or making a
comparable exchange to those people in less-developed countries.&nbsp;
For example, one customer from Russia with no means of transmitting hard
currency to GNUware for a CD, offered a small Matroishka doll for a GNUware
CD.&nbsp; He received the CD and is ready to make a trade for the latest
release.
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; How does GNUware differ from the other Linux releases
published on your site?&nbsp; Linux Weekly News seems to feel GNUware important
enough to announce as do many other Linux sites, yet Freshmeat continues
to deny letting others know about a resource that offers a wide collection
of Linux source code for redistribution in hard copy rather than by downloading
it through your site.
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; When I mentioned downloading the source code on
the announcement, which you deleted again, I was referring to the manner
in which users can download the source code from off the CD onto their
hard drive for their own use.&nbsp; This could have been better explained
had you permitted the publication of this information via freshmeat.net.
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Why will you accept the posting of other commercial
CD releases on your site and not those of GNUware?
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; How are people ever going to start using Linux software
without the possibility of accessing the software?&nbsp; How will Linux
move forward if people must continue to rely on your site for the sole
source of Linux software and news?&nbsp; This becomes especially problematic
when your site experiences problems with the MySQL server as I experienced
numerous times on Thursday, March 9, 2000 and was unable to access any
information whatsoever.
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I feel strongly that others around the world, who
do not enjoy the high bandwidth that many of us now take for granted, cannot
use or access even a fraction of the Linux source code now available.&nbsp;
For example, in Germany regular telephone use is charged by the minute.&nbsp;
There is no flat rate for Internet use via a modem.&nbsp; Every time you
access the Internet you are charged by the minute.&nbsp; This makes large
or numerous downloads expensive and impractical.&nbsp; GNUware simply tries
to make this available to them.&nbsp; The cost of the CD covers GNUware's
operating costs.&nbsp; It requires money to purchase the blank CDs, pay
for Internet service, purchase a secure certificate, etc, all without advertising
on the GNUware website.
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Funny, freshmeat always seemed so agreeable in the
past to help distribute information and let others decide what was news-worthy
before it was purchased by Andover.&nbsp; Perhaps Freshmeat has forgotten
who its readers are or what Linux users would really like to use.
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I hope you will reconsider your decision to not
post GNUware releases to your site.&nbsp; We are both, after all, in the
business of promoting Linux.&nbsp; I hope someday to see Linux be the dominant
operating system on not only all major servers but desktops as well.&nbsp;
An OS offers very little without software.
<br>Sincerely,
<br>Kerry
<p>P.S.&nbsp; Perhaps a copy of this posting to the newsgroups will help
the Linux readers decide what should be posted in the spirit of open-source..
<br>&nbsp;
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<p>Steve Killen wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>FYI, we had previously removed this appindex from
freshmeat.&nbsp; I'm removing it again, as it does not belong in freshmeat
per se; there's nothing to download.
<p>Sincerely
<br>Steve Killen &lt;skille1@gl.umbc.edu></blockquote>
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