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00bwanderson@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Bruce Anderson) writes:
] Hello.  I have a few questions which (in lieu of a FAQ) I think can be answered
] here.  First, how do I get Mach for any platform?  I understand it is at CMU,
] but which address do we need to use to FTP?

Try ftp.cs.cmu.edu -- if you can use ftp interactively, just hunt for
it.  It's also at plains.nodak.edu [I think that's the right site
name].

] Second, is the OS available for the Macintosh?

Yes and no.  It's available because CMU (from what I've heard -- some
of this info's really old and probably has changed) will be releasing
MacMach with the UNIX emulator and everything free or real cheap.  The
problem is that it requires an AT&T ****ing source code license because
CMU, in their finite wisdom, has USED AT&T CODE IN THE UNIX EMULATOR!!
WHENEVER ANYONE ASKS ABOUT CMU RELEASING THE NON-AT&T SOURCE CODE THEY
CLAM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ARE YOU LISTENING CMU?!?!]  [<-- sorry for the
flame - nobody take it personally PLEASE, but I think an explanation is
seriously in order.  Imagine how some of us with Macs that would like
to take advantage of this technology feel.]

Therefore, I've decided to start my own effort towards a Mach port.
I'm starting with the mk75default system, using GCC under Minix to
bootstrap it, and I'm going to make myself a working Mach.  As soon as
I get the kernel compiled and linked and runnable for even a fraction
of a second, I will post a note of triumph to this group and will
release my efforts to the world.  I hate duplicating work, but if CMU's
just going to sit on their thumbs I may as well go to it.  If anyone
wants to help (or has any hints on doing this port), contact me.

] If so, which Macs are capable
] us utilising it?  If not, why not? 8^)

I don't know about CMU's MacMach.  Mine will probably only run on 020
machines with a PMMU (even an LC with a PMMU somehow installed) or 030
machines (I don't know how different the MMU architectures are between
the 030 and the 040 so someone else can handle this -- I might end up
borrowing code from the AmigaMach people).  Mine will probably run
first off on the Mac IIci, since I'm going to be talking to hardware.
Eventually support for other Macs, including the original series
(+/SE/Classic) with accelerators should come about.  But I'm
netdreaming right now -- I'll let you go.

] Many thanks in advance,
] Bruce

No problem, Bruce.

TTFN,
Chris
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