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9 total messages Started by David Arnstein Sun, 14 Jan 1996 17:55
Bad tape errors with Conner 4Gbyte SCSI drive
#19
Author: David Arnstein
Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 17:55
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I'm using Conner's 4GByte (with compression) SCSI minicartridge tape
drive with Arcada Backup Exec v5.01, under Windows NT 3.51 SP3.

Occasionally, a tape backup operation will "hang" Arcada and I have to
kill the process.  Thereafter, I cannot append save sets to the tape,
I get reports of I/O errors from Arcada.

This is very irritating.  It means that I'm not, on average, getting
full capacity from these tapes.  It is *not possible* to format these
tapes!

Has anyone else seen this problem with this drive?  Solutions?
-- 
David Arnstein       
arnstein@netcom.com  
Re: Bad tape errors with Conner 4Gbyte SCSI d
#20
Author: JWrights
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:33
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I have the same drive, but on an Adaptec VL bus SCSI system.  I also use
the NT  3.51 backup software.  I've never had any problems. Since the OS
doesn't use compression I wonder if that might be a problem.  I don't know
Arcadia's rep for reliability. Also, contact Conner and ask them about
alternate settings for your tape drive in the SCSI BIOS table.

Regards
Re: Bad tape errors with Conner 4Gbyte SCSI d
#21
Author: Lance Kujala
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 03:14
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In article <4em2qn$fqa@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, jwrights@aol.com (JWrights) says:
>
>I have the same drive, but on an Adaptec VL bus SCSI system.  I also use
>the NT  3.51 backup software.  I've never had any problems. Since the OS
>doesn't use compression I wonder if that might be a problem.  I don't know
>Arcadia's rep for reliability. Also, contact Conner and ask them about
>alternate settings for your tape drive in the SCSI BIOS table.
>
>Regards

Not sure what the orgional question was, but...

I am using the Conner tape drive with an Adaptec PCI SCSI and NTBackup;
if I turn on hardware compression in the software, the tape drive hangs.
If I turn off hardware compression in the software, but leave the 
hardware compression jumpered to on on the tape drive, no problems.

Hope that helps.
Re: Bad tape errors with Conner 4Gbyte SCSI d
#22
Author: Julius
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 14:39
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In article <4emmqr$82r@atlas.uniserve.com>, lkujala@uniserve.comt says...
>
>In article <4em2qn$fqa@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, jwrights@aol.com (JWrights) 
says:
>>
>>I have the same drive, but on an Adaptec VL bus SCSI system.  I also use
>>the NT  3.51 backup software.  I've never had any problems. Since the OS
>>doesn't use compression I wonder if that might be a problem.  I don't know
>>Arcadia's rep for reliability. Also, contact Conner and ask them about
>>alternate settings for your tape drive in the SCSI BIOS table.
>>
>>Regards
>
>Not sure what the orgional question was, but...
>
>I am using the Conner tape drive with an Adaptec PCI SCSI and NTBackup;
>if I turn on hardware compression in the software, the tape drive hangs.
>If I turn off hardware compression in the software, but leave the 
>hardware compression jumpered to on on the tape drive, no problems.
>
>Hope that helps.
>
>I've got the same Tdrive & Arc backup exec V6 it Works find
> but I was not Aware that you can get Hardware Compression,
>I always thought that you can get Compression through SOFTware 
>Only; but then Again that's my opinion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>juliust@jaxnet.com<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Re: Bad tape errors with Conner 4Gbyte SCSI d
#23
Author: John Beardmore
Date: Thu, 01 Feb 1996 17:11
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In article <4em2qn$fqa@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, JWrights
<jwrights@aol.com> writes

>I have the same drive, but on an Adaptec VL bus SCSI system.  I also use
>the NT  3.51 backup software.  I've never had any problems. Since the OS
>doesn't use compression I wonder if that might be a problem.  I don't know
>Arcadia's rep for reliability. Also, contact Conner and ask them about
>alternate settings for your tape drive in the SCSI BIOS table.

I did have some problems using NTs backup software, a conner 4 gig drive
and a wangdat tape unit using a VL bus Rocket 2 board with an Adaptec
controler ( VL or ISA ).

This was cured in the end by going to PCI. I don't recall if I have
hardware compression enabled or not.


J/.
-- 
John Beardmore
Re: Bad tape errors with Conner 4Gbyte SCSI Exabyte, too!
#25
Author: Sophie Tang
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 07:18
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In <3PDZVmACRPExEwKK@wookie.demon.co.uk> John Beardmore
<wookie@wookie.demon.co.uk> writes: 
>
>In article <4em2qn$fqa@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, JWrights
><jwrights@aol.com> writes
>
>>I have the same drive, but on an Adaptec VL bus SCSI system.  I also
use
>>the NT  3.51 backup software.  I've never had any problems. Since the
OS
>>doesn't use compression I wonder if that might be a problem.  I don't
know
>>Arcadia's rep for reliability. Also, contact Conner and ask them
about
>>alternate settings for your tape drive in the SCSI BIOS table.
>
>I did have some problems using NTs backup software, a conner 4 gig
drive
>and a wangdat tape unit using a VL bus Rocket 2 board with an Adaptec
>controler ( VL or ISA ).
>
>This was cured in the end by going to PCI. I don't recall if I have
>hardware compression enabled or not.
>
>
>J/.
>-- 
>John Beardmore

I am running into the  bad tape errors a lot on NT.  The same tape
works
just fine on HP workstations.  So it must be the Exabyte 4200 caused
all the data tape error problem.  Any suggestions?
Re: Bad tape errors with Conner 4Gbyte SCSI Exabyte, too!
#24
Author: Vera Langenbahn
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 1996 15:28
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Sophie Tang (computea@ix.netcom.com) wrote:

: I am running into the  bad tape errors a lot on NT.  The same tape
: works
: just fine on HP workstations.  So it must be the Exabyte 4200 caused
: all the data tape error problem.  Any suggestions?

I had a lot of "bad tape errors" on my HP DAT (Win 3.1, NCR810 contr.) 
and finally I found out how important it is to clean a DAT drive
regulary.. er... after using a cleaning tape it worked fine again.

But sorry, don't know how to solve a problem with a tape drive,
that works not with one system and works well under another... :-(

greets,
Vera
Re: Bad tape errors with Conner 4Gbyte SCSI Exabyte, too!
#26
Author: Douglas A. Zimmer
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 1996 05:20
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Sophie Tang (computea@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: 
: I am running into the  bad tape errors a lot on NT.  The same tape
: works
: just fine on HP workstations.  So it must be the Exabyte 4200 caused
: all the data tape error problem.  Any suggestions?

We've run into a lot of those type errors, as well as messages that the 
tape isn't properly inserted, etc.

The solution is a wierd one, although it works. What we've done is put 
the tape drive on  it's own scsi host adapter. The problems have 
disappeared completely. We've done this to 5 machines, uning eithe 
NTBackup or Arcada Backup Exec.


Doug
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  Doug Zimmer  dzimmer@access.digex.net
    Systems Administrator - Jenark Business Systems, Inc.  
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Re: Bad tape errors with Conner 4Gbyte SCSI Exabyte, too!
#27
Author: Bill Schamusser
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 07:16
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DITTO !

I came upon the same solution to this problem whe using 4 hp 
jetstore 8 Gb DAT drives on HP net servers. Lots of bad blocks 
and controller errors. SO... I tried running the tape drives on 
their own HBA's. Voila! I've talked w/ MS tech supp about this. 
They claim befuddlement. Hmmm... maybe they should pay us 
$195.00 per incident....

Bill Schmausser 
Sys Admin SuperFlow Corp
Colorado Springs CO
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