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I have encountered the same problem (using SETUP.EXE from the CD-ROM).  I
talked to one of my techie friends who mentioned that I should NOT be
loading any type of DOS on the HD, just use a simple START disk (containing
FDISK, MSCDEX.EXE  and some other basic programs) and to use that to try to
load windows up.  I will try it again this weekend, but I'm tired of trying
and trying and trying...

If someone could tell me the correct procedure to installing windows95, I
would be very grateful.

Joe Meehan
Guardians@earthlink.net
Joeym2000@aol.com

Matt West wrote in message <3505799d.114182756@news.demon.co.uk>...
>I hope someone may be able to shed some light on this problem :
>
>When installing Windows 95 OSR2 (using the correct OEM preinstall
>tools), the installation routine freezes at the blue "Getting ready to
>run Windows for the first time" screen.
>The hardware is all new, and passes software diagnostic tests.
>Two new motherboards have been tried in this PC (both new LSI TX
>chipset boards) and the SIMMs have been replaced.  I have also tried a
>different hard drive.
>The only common part is the CPU, an IBM M2 P166+ MX.   Could this be
>the cause of the freezing ?
>

If you're having problems starting after the setup runs ok then it's
likely that a Plug n Play device is conflicting with a legacy device.
Try starting in safe mode (hit F8 at the "starting Windows 95"
message) and setting up devices manually.  If it starts ok in safe
mode but keeps hanging on rstart in normal mode then try removing all
extra hardware (sound card, network card, modem etc) & restart. Put
the cards back in one by one until you find the one causing the
problem.

>I have encountered the same problem (using SETUP.EXE from the CD-ROM).  I
>talked to one of my techie friends who mentioned that I should NOT be
>loading any type of DOS on the HD,

That is nonsense.

> just use a simple START disk (containing
>FDISK, MSCDEX.EXE  and some other basic programs) and to use that to try to
>load windows up.  I will try it again this weekend, but I'm tired of trying
>and trying and trying...
>
>If someone could tell me the correct procedure to installing windows95, I
>would be very grateful.
>
>Joe Meehan
>Guardians@earthlink.net
>Joeym2000@aol.com
>
>Matt West wrote in message <3505799d.114182756@news.demon.co.uk>...
>>I hope someone may be able to shed some light on this problem :
>>
>>When installing Windows 95 OSR2 (using the correct OEM preinstall
>>tools), the installation routine freezes at the blue "Getting ready to
>>run Windows for the first time" screen.
>>The hardware is all new, and passes software diagnostic tests.
>>Two new motherboards have been tried in this PC (both new LSI TX
>>chipset boards) and the SIMMs have been replaced.  I have also tried a
>>different hard drive.
>>The only common part is the CPU, an IBM M2 P166+ MX.   Could this be
>>the cause of the freezing ?
>>
>
>

Matt West wrote:
> 
> I hope someone may be able to shed some light on this problem :
> 
> When installing Windows 95 OSR2 (using the correct OEM preinstall
> tools), the installation routine freezes at the blue "Getting ready to
> run Windows for the first time" screen.
> The hardware is all new, and passes software diagnostic tests.
> Two new motherboards have been tried in this PC (both new LSI TX
> chipset boards) and the SIMMs have been replaced.  I have also tried a
> different hard drive.
> The only common part is the CPU, an IBM M2 P166+ MX.   Could this be
> the cause of the freezing ?

You say "oem pre-install tools".  Why?  Setup.exe works fine and detects
the hardware.
-- 
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Michigan, USA

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gav@world-net.co.nz (Gav) wrote:

>If you're having problems starting after the setup runs ok then it's
>likely that a Plug n Play device is conflicting with a legacy device.
>Try starting in safe mode (hit F8 at the "starting Windows 95"
>message) and setting up devices manually.  If it starts ok in safe
>mode but keeps hanging on rstart in normal mode then try removing all
>extra hardware (sound card, network card, modem etc) & restart. Put
>the cards back in one by one until you find the one causing the
>problem.

Even safe mode freezes at the Windows 95 startup screen.
Only the minimum hardware is present (ie. memory SIMMs , PCI graphics
card, floppy, CD-ROM and hard disk).


Matt West
Technidraft Ltd, The Didcot Enterprise Centre
Southmead Industrial Park, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 7PH, UK
Tel. 01235 511 770   Fax. 01235 511 771

Matt, freezeup on safe mode sounds like one of your devices installed has
the same interupt as another driver device, cd-roms or sound cards are
good for that. You need to check all interupts and make changes.
Walt

Matt West wrote:

> gav@world-net.co.nz (Gav) wrote:
>
> >If you're having problems starting after the setup runs ok then it's
> >likely that a Plug n Play device is conflicting with a legacy device.
> >Try starting in safe mode (hit F8 at the "starting Windows 95"
> >message) and setting up devices manually.  If it starts ok in safe
> >mode but keeps hanging on rstart in normal mode then try removing all
> >extra hardware (sound card, network card, modem etc) & restart. Put
> >the cards back in one by one until you find the one causing the
> >problem.
>
> Even safe mode freezes at the Windows 95 startup screen.
> Only the minimum hardware is present (ie. memory SIMMs , PCI graphics
> card, floppy, CD-ROM and hard disk).
>
> Matt West
> Technidraft Ltd, The Didcot Enterprise Centre
> Southmead Industrial Park, Didcot, Oxfordshire, OX11 7PH, UK
> Tel. 01235 511 770   Fax. 01235 511 771

"Walter R. Boley" <wboley@gte.net> wrote:

>Matt, freezeup on safe mode sounds like one of your devices installed has
>the same interupt as another driver device, cd-roms or sound cards are
>good for that. You need to check all interupts and make changes.
>Walt

I have tried booting Win95 in 'step-by-setp confirmation' mode and it
has seemed to show the problem.
At the 'Load the Windows graphical user interface' prompt, the error
"Not enough extended memory available to run Windows" message appears.
Currently the system is using 2 x 16MB EDO SIMMs.
Any ideas why it should report this error ?

Can your board actually handle the memory?
Check to see that the memory is actually working properly and your computer is
actually seeing it. If that isn't the problem, try using one 32 meg EDO or
replacing the memory. The error you are describing usually only happens when
someone trys to run windows95 full install with 4 megs of ram in there
computer.

Matt West wrote:

> "Walter R. Boley" <wboley@gte.net> wrote:
>
> >Matt, freezeup on safe mode sounds like one of your devices installed has
> >the same interupt as another driver device, cd-roms or sound cards are
> >good for that. You need to check all interupts and make changes.
> >Walt
>
> I have tried booting Win95 in 'step-by-setp confirmation' mode and it
> has seemed to show the problem.
> At the 'Load the Windows graphical user interface' prompt, the error
> "Not enough extended memory available to run Windows" message appears.
> Currently the system is using 2 x 16MB EDO SIMMs.
> Any ideas why it should report this error ?

Problem solved :
The cause of Win95 setup freezing and the "not enough extended memory
available to run Windows" error messages was due to the CPU.
The IBM M2 P166+ MX was replaced and Windows now installs fine.
I tried down-clocking the original CPU, but this made no difference.

Strange that a faulty CPU causes this error message !

I know the problem has been solved but I thought I'd share my techniques :

>>actually seeing it. If that isn't the problem, try using one 32 meg EDO

That won't work because pentium boards must run with matched pair simms.

If I have problems installing os software on a new system, I first replace
the memory. If this doesn't work I go into the bios and disable both the
level1 and level2 caches (internal and external) this will usually fix any
processor related problems. If it *does*, check the CPU voltage settings are
correct. If they are correct you can pretty much bet on a duff cpu. Although
it will solve the problem it's not practical to run a system without cache
so return to your vendor with a bat !

Andy

You know you need a holiday when you say :
"I'm very tempted to install the Windows 98 beta this weekend".