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3 total messages Started by Raymond Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:18
DESQview/X memory problem
#1906
Author: Raymond
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:18
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HELP !

I've just installed DESQview/X on a Compaq Prolinea 486 and I have
encountered some problems. namely that If I try to open anything other
than a DOS window I get a "Not Enough Memory" box appears in the top
corner. 

Because the machine is not a REAL Compaq the switches "NCF RAM" have to 
be added to the QUEMM entry in the CONFIG.SYS file or dvx will not work
 at all.

The machine has 4Mb of memory, I installed the same Xview on an 8Mb machine
and it works fine. (This machine was not a Compaq)

All I want to know is 

1) Should it work OK with 4Mb. I cannot open ANY application.

2) Has anybody had a similar experience with a Compaq Prolinea 486 and
   if so how did you fix it

I would GREATLY appreciate any help anyone has to offer

Thanks in advance

Raymond Mulligan

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Re: DESQview/X memory problem
#1910
Author: James J Wu
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:14
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Raymond,
     From the reviews I've read about dvx, you need more memory to run any 
applications.  When quarterdeck says 4MB RAM minimum, they mean it.  The 4 MB 
of RAM allows you to run dvx and little else.  If you run manifest while under 
dvx (you should be able to, it doesn't need much memory) and select desqview 
from the menu, it should tell you what memory is used and available. some other
manifest features may provide you with some more info.
     I'm running DV/X on a computer with 8 MB of RAM and am able to do quite a 
bit, but I still sometimes find it's still not enough.
     Another solution would be to use QDPMI 1.01 (Quarterdeck's version of the 
DOS protected mode interface) to access virtual memory... it will cause your 
system to slow down quite a bit and generate a lot of wear on your hard drive, 
but it would be your most inexpensive solution.
     james
Re: DESQview/X memory problem
#1920
Author: Mark Notarus
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:27
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mulligan@jcpltyo.JCPL.CO.JP (Raymond) writes:
}The machine has 4Mb of memory, I installed the same Xview on an 8Mb machine
}and it works fine. (This machine was not a Compaq)
 Proably, you dont have 4MB available. If you're like most DOS people,
me included, you tend towards a 1MB disk cache, ten or twelve small tsrs..
(things like networks, video drivers, etc..) THat result in having something
*much* closer to 2.5 MB free for DVX to play with--- and that's a problem.

 Some tips to remember:
1) leave hma free-- the area that you are using to loadhi things is
also the area where DV/DVX wants to load it's code.... Remember that 
the amount of conventional memory left is the maximum program size you can run code in. Less is more..if you can't live without that tsr, run it in a 
dos windo, or make a dvp for it.

2) Allow Program swapping-- edit the dos4gfx.cfg file, and set virtual memory
on.... For some reason, Quarterdeck figured that you never really wanna
swap programs, just video. :)

3) Consider the program dvp's you're using..if you write them yourself, 
start at 350K available and move up...the less memory required by a dvp, the
more situations in which that program's gonna run...like, say, when you
install a network on that machine, and have alomost 50K less memory.
(Ack, poo. Lanman...*grrr*...but work has it's requirements)



}1) Should it work OK with 4Mb. I cannot open ANY application.
 It Will, if it's set up properly.

 Just some thoughts...

 mark
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