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In article <zEVPz0E6A5GN092yn@momeraths.org>,
Sysop <MarchHare@momeraths.org> wrote:
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>In article <5hc5mg$p0o@client3.news.psi.net>,
>os2@mistik.express.net (Mustafa Soysal MS57) wrote:
>>In article <Nk8NzgRDAMcC091yn@bigblue.no>, B. Vermo <bv@bigblue.no> wrote:
>>>In article <5h7kkq$69s@client3.news.psi.net>,
>>>os2@mistik.express.net (Mustafa Soysal MS57) wrote:
>>>|
>>>|You would have an axe to gring with IBM if they weren't able to bring
>>>|out a stable version that can run more than 24 hours stable (that's the
>>>|most stable it got, after dooming the system to do pretty much nothing
>>>
>>>It must be something you (or your hardware) are doing. I have always
>>>been running on a 365 day 24 hour basis. All serious problems up to
>>>now have been traced to hardware or experimental software. Warp 4 is
>>>not as stable as OS/2 1.3, but then nothing else on the Intel platform
>>
>>Linux is, and apparently reportedly on os2-l, NT 3.1 is...
>
>Why not compare it to NT 4.0?  Because you know it is not as stable as 
>3.51.  At least have the courtesy to compare apples to apples.

;) You would have to compare it to Warp 4.0....I am comparing it to
Warp3.0, and even Warp Connect 3.0

>
>>
>>>is either. I do an unattended reboot every Sunday night to clean up
>>
>>Unattended reboots would be a problem since OS/2 isn't stable.  If the
>>WPS starts crashing and rebooting over and over, and ends up connecting
>>and disconnecting to the ISP, that would cost a fortune.
>
>Odd, I have a machine at work that does unattended reboots.  The 
>hardware isn't even all that great, and I wouldn't recommend that 
>particular combination to anyone.  Yet, it does work.  It only reboots 
>when a specified parameter is given to a specified program under 
>specified conditions.  It hasn't needed a reboot in a while, and I was 
>recently out of the office for 1-1/2 weeks.

;) Yeah, don't use the keyboard, because the keyboard and the mouse
drivers have bugs too...

>
>>However, weekly manual restarts would be acceptable, even for ISP use,
>>if OS/2 was that stable.  But it is not.  And I cannot be locked in a
>>certain selection of hardware, especially if it is not known at any time
>>until you tried it since I may need to upgrade for performance reasons.
>
>Yet, you say you did your own research.  Sounds like you made a bad 
>decision, and now you are trying to blame anyone but yourself.  Heck, 
>I've made a few bad decisions myself.  Deal with it.

Comprehend what you read, and you may figure out that dealing with it is
not possible due to lack of a guaranteed platform.  <G> How about
Aptivas?  It is IBM hardware isn't it?

>
>>>after any rogue applications. This only takes 20 minutes, and is a
>>>sound practice which I also followed with minicomputers.
>>>
>>
>>I wish it was that stable, and I didn't have to write what I write for
>>that reason.
>
>*Yawn*  While I was out of the office for over a week, my machine at 
>home running OS/2 4.0 was gathering news and mail and never needed a 
>reboot.  However, I did my research and picked hardware according to a 
>specified criteria.  Most of my components are over 3 years old now, and
>still doing quite well.  Again, I did my research and discovered what I 
>needed to do.  I bought some bad hardware, and it turns out that the bad
>hardware eventually bit me for OS/2, Windows or anything else.  Yes, 
>I've flushed some money down the toilet, but I can hardly blame IBM for 
>that.  I do blame hardware manufacturers who cut corners, though.

So what hardware was so bad, and what is the good one you have found? 
Did IBM tell you what was good?
Did IBM tell you what was bad?

>
>I should mention, also, that my home machine does a lot of beta testing,
>including junk I've hacked together myself.  Honestly, I'm sometimes 
>surprised it does as well as it does.

That means, when you say it does well, it does well for running
betas.... I don't run any betas...May be I should run betas to make it
appear more stable than it is...

>
>All operating systems have their flaws, and all major vendors, including

<G> Now the confession, and that everbody else sins too...

>IBM, have their flaws.  OTOH, the directionless efforts by MS ("What 
>are we going to do tonight, Brain?"  "What we do every night, Pinky. 
>We're going to take over the world."), the cluelessness of Gateway 
>technicians and the strangeness of Seagate products make IBM look like 
>angels.

:) I could not expose you better than that.

>
>John
>
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Best Regards,

Mustafa Soysal

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