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Started by Randy Olan
Wed, 04 Dec 1996 00:00
OS/2 and W95 long names?
Author: Randy Olan
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 00:00
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 1996 00:00
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Hi all, I've got OS/2 and Windows currently installed on one machine and need to install W95 with long file name support. I have a common drive partition that will be used by W95 and OS/2. I'd like to know if any problems will exist if I use W95 long file names on this drive. Of course I won't be accessing W95 files under OS/2, but will this cause any corruptions, and will I be able to run OS/2 disk utilities against the common drive without any problems? BTW I won't be installing FAT32, I'll only have the base W95 with service pack 1. TIA, Randy ============================ rolan@ibm.net
Re: OS/2 and W95 long names?
Author: Roderick W. Smith
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 00:00
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In message <5850jo$n1j@mblisd.macquarie.com.au> - rolan@ibm.net (Randy Olan)4 Dec 1996 23:14:00 GMT writes: > > I've got OS/2 and Windows currently installed on > one machine and need to install W95 with long file name > support. I have a common drive partition that will > be used by W95 and OS/2. I'd like to know if > any problems will exist if I use W95 long file names > on this drive. Of course I won't be accessing W95 files > under OS/2, but will this cause any corruptions, and will > I be able to run OS/2 disk utilities against the common > drive without any problems? > > BTW I won't be installing FAT32, I'll only have the base W95 > with service pack 1. So long as it's FAT16, it should work fine. You won't be able to access the Win95 long filenames, but OS/2 pretty well ignores the VFAT entries that contain those names, so OS/2 won't corrupt them; and Win95 pretty much ignores the OS/2 EA file, so that should be safe. Some exceptions, though: 1) Some relatively old versions of OS/2 CHKDSK did reportedly cause problems with VFAT LFNs, but this has long since been fixed. If you're running Warp 3.0, I'd recommend installing the latest ServicePack to be sure you don't run into this problem. 2) Some (mostly old) DOS disk utilities (like disk defraggers) would sometimes fail to copy the "unused" bits OS/2 uses to point to the EA file offsets, thus trashing the EAs, as far as OS/2 is concerned. The utilities included with Win95 are all safe, and AFAIK the same is true of most or all current third-party utilities. Just avoid the really old stuff. > rolan@ibm.net +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Rod Smith Author of: | | rodsmith@indiana.edu "Should I Buy OS/2" FAQ | | http://ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu/~rodsmith "OS/2 Soundcard Summary" | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+
Re: OS/2 and W95 long names?
Author: kardos
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 00:00
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Randy wrote: >I've got OS/2 and Windows currently installed on >one machine and need to install W95 with long file name >support. I have a common drive partition that will >be used by W95 and OS/2. I'd like to know if >any problems will exist if I use W95 long file names >on this drive. Of course I won't be accessing W95 files >under OS/2, but will this cause any corruptions, and will >I be able to run OS/2 disk utilities against the common >drive without any problems? I had to install W95 a few months ago, but I also had to remove it, because the FAT of W95 caused many problems under plain DOS, and OS/2 too. I'm not an expert of W95, but I noticed, that the two copies of the FAT are different under W95. So DOS and OS/2 may report lost clusters, files or directories, and everything is ok under W95. So I don't recommend to use OS/2 disk utilities in a W95 partition, I don't recommend to Use W95 at all, if it isn't absolutely necessery. But if you're going to use W95, don't attempt to run the DOS or OS/2 of CHKDSK on the W95 drive ! ***************************** Botond Kardos kardos@mail.matav.hu phone/fax: (36 1) 268-0934
Re: OS/2 and W95 long names?
Author: Dill
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 00:00
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 1996 00:00
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Roderick W. Smith wrote:
>
> rolan@ibm.net (Randy Olan) wrote:
> >
> > I've got OS/2 and Windows currently installed on
> > one machine and need to install W95 with long file name
> > support. I have a common drive partition that will
> > be used by W95 and OS/2. I'd like to know if
> > any problems will exist if I use W95 long file names
> > on this drive. Of course I won't be accessing W95 files
> > under OS/2, but will this cause any corruptions, and will
> > I be able to run OS/2 disk utilities against the common
> > drive without any problems?
> >
> > BTW I won't be installing FAT32, I'll only have the base W95
> > with service pack 1.
>
> So long as it's FAT16, it should work fine. You won't be able to
> access the Win95 long filenames, but OS/2 pretty well ignores the VFAT
> entries that contain those names, so OS/2 won't corrupt them; and
> Win95 pretty much ignores the OS/2 EA file, so that should be safe.
Actually, you _can_ access Win95's long filenames. Sort of. IBM's
'Just Add OS/2 Warp' kit is designed for people running both Warp and
Win95 on the same machine, especially on the same partion. It allows you
to (among other things) see Win95 long file names in OS/2's WorkPlace
Shell (WPS).
Plusses: makes it easier to figure out what an xxxxxx~1.yyy file is
without having to reboot into Win95, becuase you can see its long name
in OS/2's WPS.
Minusses: only works in the WPS and programs based on the WPS, like
Stardock's Object Navigator (part of Object Desktop)
: if you try to rename a Windows LFN to another long name
while in OS/2, you'll have problems, as Win95 won't recognize the
change.
About the only thing this is good for is _viewing_ LFNs in OS/2. For
that, though, it works well. You can find the JAOW kit at:
http://www.austin.ibm.com/pspinfo/nwsdrk95.html
--Dill
dill@glinx.com
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