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In article <16B8F86E1.M21816@MBVM.Mitre.Org> M21816@MBVM.Mitre.Org (Paul Campbell) writes:
>hi all,
> 
>i would appreciate hearing from anyone who has migrated applications
>from VM to OS/2 (486).  i don't know any of the details of either
>environment (i am posting for a colleague) except to say that he has
>PROFS, SQL/DS and REXX/XEDIT concerns.  he is especially interested
>moving PL/I applications.  is there a PL/I compiler for OS/2, either
>IBM's or 3rd party?  does anyone know of PL/I code translator, maybe
>PL/I to C?  thanks /pc

This is *NOT* a flame, just a personal observation.  This sounds to me like
'Does anyone know how to convert a druid to astrology?'.  'Migrate' here is
like 'port' elsewhere.  The assumption is that there are more commonalities
than not.  Having worked in/with both systems, my best advice (and it's really
not advice, just an observation) is dump the old and pick up the new (no time
bias should be implied, just 'what I used to use' vs. 'what I use now':).
Trying to 'hang' on to the old methodology (i.e., understand a system new to
the user in terms of the system the user is used to [when they are *far*
separated]) will only aggravate your trials.

That said, here are the tenuous  connections:

PROFS:  ?

PL/I:  ?

REXX:  Batch files (*NOT* nearly as powerful)

XEDIT:  Only third party.  Brief comes about as close as any for approximating
		  a language.

Again, painful as it may seem, understand the underlying algorithm of your
'migrating' applications and don't 'migrate', rewrite them in OS/2 native
languages as applicable. (After all, that's what the writers of OS/2 had to
do in trying to emulate existing IBM archetechtures;^}  [ it is questionable
that they succeeded ]).

Dave S.

In article <1993Mar13.153843.26423@unet.net.com>
dsilvia@blunt.net.com (Dave Silvia) writes:
 
>In article <16B8F86E1.M21816@MBVM.Mitre.Org> M21816@MBVM.Mitre.Org (Paul Campbell) writes:
>>hi all,
>>
>>i would appreciate hearing from anyone who has migrated applications
>>from VM to OS/2 (486).  i don't know any of the details of either
>>environment (i am posting for a colleague) except to say that he has
>>PROFS, SQL/DS and REXX/XEDIT concerns.  he is especially interested
>>moving PL/I applications.  is there a PL/I compiler for OS/2, either
>>IBM's or 3rd party?  does anyone know of PL/I code translator, maybe
>>PL/I to C?  thanks /pc
>
>This is *NOT* a flame, just a personal observation.
>..........
 ... Oh ?!
>
>That said, here are the tenuous  connections:
>
>PROFS:  ?
>
>PL/I:  ?
 Liant sells a PL/I for DOS using the Phar Lap DOS Extender.
 It ought to run in a DOS window under OS/2.
>
>REXX:  Batch files (*NOT* nearly as powerful)
  REXX is built into OS/2
>
>XEDIT:  Only third party.  Brief comes about as close as any for approximating
>                  a language.
  Mansfield sells KEDIT, which is very close to XEDIT,
 plus reasonable PC extension (blocking, etc.).
 It is available as a native OS/2 app, as well as for DOS.
>
......
>
>Dave S.
 
I am looking to do the same thing, porting RAMIS database stuff to FOCUS.
 
Bill Price

In article <1993Mar13.153843.26423@unet.net.com> dsilvia@blunt.net.com (Dave Silvia) writes:
>In article <16B8F86E1.M21816@MBVM.Mitre.Org> M21816@MBVM.Mitre.Org (Paul Campbell) writes:
>>hi all,
>> 
>>i would appreciate hearing from anyone who has migrated applications
>>from VM to OS/2 (486).  i don't know any of the details of either
>>environment (i am posting for a colleague) except to say that he has
>>PROFS, SQL/DS and REXX/XEDIT concerns.  he is especially interested
>>moving PL/I applications.  is there a PL/I compiler for OS/2, either
>>IBM's or 3rd party?  does anyone know of PL/I code translator, maybe
>>PL/I to C?  thanks /pc
>
>This is *NOT* a flame, just a personal observation.  This sounds to me like
>'Does anyone know how to convert a druid to astrology?'.  'Migrate' here is
>like 'port' elsewhere.  The assumption is that there are more commonalities
>than not.  Having worked in/with both systems, my best advice (and it's really
>not advice, just an observation) is dump the old and pick up the new (no time
>bias should be implied, just 'what I used to use' vs. 'what I use now':).
>Trying to 'hang' on to the old methodology (i.e., understand a system new to
>the user in terms of the system the user is used to [when they are *far*
>separated]) will only aggravate your trials.
>
>That said, here are the tenuous  connections:
>
>PROFS:  ?
>
>PL/I:  ?
>
>REXX:  Batch files (*NOT* nearly as powerful)
>
>XEDIT:  Only third party.  Brief comes about as close as any for approximating
>		  a language.
>
>Again, painful as it may seem, understand the underlying algorithm of your
>'migrating' applications and don't 'migrate', rewrite them in OS/2 native
>languages as applicable. (After all, that's what the writers of OS/2 had to
>do in trying to emulate existing IBM archetechtures;^}  [ it is questionable
>that they succeeded ]).
>
>Dave S.

Sorry -- but that is not a real world answer, Dave.
And sorry to the orig. poster -- I have migrated other things but not PL/1
BUt I think you posted to the right groups to get an answer.  Best bet
is to consult the IBM EVIS database.  I will try for you.  I am sure
someone some where is doing this.

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In article <16B9011F35.Q4105@pucc.Princeton.EDU> Q4105@pucc.Princeton.EDU (WILLIAM PRICE) writes:
   >In article <16B8F86E1.M21816@MBVM.Mitre.Org> M21816@MBVM.Mitre.Org (Paul Campbell) writes:

   >>i would appreciate hearing from anyone who has migrated applications
   >>from VM to OS/2 (486).  i don't know any of the details of either
   >>environment (i am posting for a colleague) except to say that he has
   >>PROFS, SQL/DS and REXX/XEDIT concerns.  he is especially interested
   >>moving PL/I applications.  is there a PL/I compiler for OS/2, either
   >>IBM's or 3rd party?  does anyone know of PL/I code translator, maybe
   >>PL/I to C?  thanks /pc

   >
   >PL/I:  ?
    Liant sells a PL/I for DOS using the Phar Lap DOS Extender.
    It ought to run in a DOS window under OS/2.
   >


I just received a card advertising PL/I Package/2 for OS/2.  It is an IBM
product.  Here is the pertinent information:

International Business Machines Corporation
STL PL/I Package/2
Department STL5-H05Q06
P.O. Box 2150
Atlanta, GA 30301-9948
1 (800) 426-3346 ext STL10.

If you call you will receive a FREE EVALUATION COPY and a FREE PRODUCT VIDEO
(IBM's shouts, not mine).

I know nothing else about the package.  Heck, I don't even know what PL/I is,
for that matter.  Hope this helps.

Derrick

In article <1993Mar13.153843.26423@unet.net.com> dsilvia@blunt.net.com (Dave Silvia) writes:
>In article <16B8F86E1.M21816@MBVM.Mitre.Org> M21816@MBVM.Mitre.Org (Paul Campbell) writes:
>>hi all,
>> 
>>i would appreciate hearing from anyone who has migrated applications
>>from VM to OS/2 (486).  i don't know any of the details of either
>>environment (i am posting for a colleague) except to say that he has
>>PROFS, SQL/DS and REXX/XEDIT concerns.  he is especially interested
>>moving PL/I applications.  is there a PL/I compiler for OS/2, either
>>IBM's or 3rd party?  does anyone know of PL/I code translator, maybe
>>PL/I to C?  thanks /pc
>
>PL/I:  ?

I know this isn't the correct newsgroup, but, just for the record, IBM
does in fact have a PL/I compiler for OS/2. (I know because my father 
was a manager of the team who developed it) 

						Todd
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