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3 total messages Started by Clive Humble Mon, 30 Sep 1996 00:00
RAM > 64Mb.. is this normal ?
#17525
Author: Clive Humble
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 00:00
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Hi chaps,


I've just added a few more chips to my PC.

Here's the output from 4OS2's  'memory' command

   100,249,600 bytes total physical RAM
   663,478,272 bytes total resident RAM

     9,027,584 bytes largest free block

         4,096 bytes total environment
         2,104 bytes free

         4,096 bytes total alias
         3,515 bytes free

         1,024 bytes total history.


The BIOS reports 96Mb..


GammaTech  System Information says..

[snip]
Total physical memory:                         97 MB
Total resident memory:                          8 MB
Total available memory:                       646 MB
Maximum bytes of memory in private arena:     165 MB
Maximum bytes of memory in shared arena:      355 MB
[snip]


System Information Tool reports...



*********** System Information Tool -  ***********
*********** Installed Memory Amounts ***********
Memory Amounts by Operating System 
Total amount memory detected by OS/2 : 97,900  Kilobytes 
Total bytes of memory locked by OS/2 : 8,772   Kilobytes 
Total amount of virtual memory free  : 651,456 Kilobytes 
Page size of memory                  : 4,096   Bytes 
Memory Amounts by Type 
Base Memory                          : 640     Kilobytes 
Total Usable                         : 65,152  Kilobytes 
Extended Memory                      : 64,512  Kilobytes 
System Board Memory                  : 65,152  Kilobytes 
Cacheable Memory                     : 65,152  Kilobytes 
*********** System Information Tool -  ***********

What's with the 'Total amount detected' and the last three
stats..?

The plot thickens..

*********** Memory address ranges recognized by this system ***********
Memory address range under 1 Megabyte 
System RAM   : 00000000 - 0009FFFF (640)    Kilobytes 
Video RAM    : 000A0000 - 000BFFFF (128)    Kilobytes 
Adapter ROMs : 000C0000 - 000DFFFF (128)    Kilobytes 
System ROM   : 000E0000 - 000FFFFF (128)    Kilobytes 
Memory address range under 16 Megabytes 
System RAM   : 00100000 - 00FFFFFF (15,360) Kilobytes 
Memory address range above 16 Megabytes 
System RAM   : 01000000 - 12FFFFFF (49,152) Kilobytes 
*********** System Information Tool -  ***********


What's with the 'Memory address about 16 Mb'

Is something amiss ? Do I bring my box down to 64Mb and buy another
kite with the 'lost' 32Mb..?

Mmmn.. or am I missing something..?

Cheers!

Clive
,c.
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Re: RAM > 64Mb.. is this normal ?
#17526
Author: Stanley Chow
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 00:00
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In article <844098206snz129.os2.7@artin.glassnet.com>,
Clive Humble <chumble@glassnet.com> wrote:
>
>Hi chaps,
>
>
>I've just added a few more chips to my PC.
>
[ output from 4OS2 memory, and GammaTech Sysinfo]

I think I would ignore these two and just rely on ...

>*********** System Information Tool -  ***********
>*********** Installed Memory Amounts ***********
>Memory Amounts by Operating System 
>Total amount memory detected by OS/2 : 97,900  Kilobytes 
>Total bytes of memory locked by OS/2 : 8,772   Kilobytes 
>Total amount of virtual memory free  : 651,456 Kilobytes 
>Page size of memory                  : 4,096   Bytes 
>Memory Amounts by Type 
>Base Memory                          : 640     Kilobytes 
>Total Usable                         : 65,152  Kilobytes 
>Extended Memory                      : 64,512  Kilobytes 
>System Board Memory                  : 65,152  Kilobytes 
>Cacheable Memory                     : 65,152  Kilobytes 
>*********** System Information Tool -  ***********
>
>What's with the 'Total amount detected' and the last three
>stats..?

I am pretty sure "Total detected" is what OS/2 thinks as the
total amount of physically installed RAM, and it looks like
the entire 96 meg was found.

The last four lines certainly look like only 64 meg is used. On my
machine with 64 Meg, the breakdown by type is exactly the same.

>What's with the 'Memory address about 16 Mb'

There are a number of "magic" addresses in the PC games; the best
known is of course the 640K low-ram, but 1 meg and 16 meg are also
special, which is probably why OS/2 reports them separatly.

>
>Is something amiss ? Do I bring my box down to 64Mb and buy another
>kite with the 'lost' 32Mb..?

Strange, my 64 Meg machine has exactly the same ranges; sure looks
like OS/2 is using only 64 meg.  There may be BIOS or other h/w switches
that you need to flip; I recalled there being some patch for some brand
of motherboards to go above some size (sorry about being so vague, but
it wasn't something that worried me, so I didn't look at the details).


-- 
Stanley Chow;  schow@bnr.ca, stanley.chow-ott@nt.com; (613) 763-2831
Bell Northern Research Ltd., PO Box 3511 Station C, Ottawa, Ontario
Me? Represent other people? Don't make them laugh so hard.
Re: RAM > 64Mb.. is this normal ?
#17527
Author: Andrew Gierth
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 00:00
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 > In article <844098206snz129.os2.7@artin.glassnet.com>,
 > Clive Humble <chumble@glassnet.com> wrote:
 >> 
 >> Hi chaps,
 >> 
 >> 
 >> I've just added a few more chips to my PC.
 >> 
...
 >> *********** System Information Tool -  ***********
 >> *********** Installed Memory Amounts ***********
 >> Memory Amounts by Operating System 
 >> Total amount memory detected by OS/2 : 97,900  Kilobytes 
 >> Total bytes of memory locked by OS/2 : 8,772   Kilobytes 
 >> Total amount of virtual memory free  : 651,456 Kilobytes 
 >> Page size of memory                  : 4,096   Bytes 
 >> Memory Amounts by Type 
 >> Base Memory                          : 640     Kilobytes 
 >> Total Usable                         : 65,152  Kilobytes 
 >> Extended Memory                      : 64,512  Kilobytes 
 >> System Board Memory                  : 65,152  Kilobytes 
 >> Cacheable Memory                     : 65,152  Kilobytes 
 >> *********** System Information Tool -  ***********
 >> 
 >> What's with the 'Total amount detected' and the last three
 >> stats..?
...
 >> What's with the 'Memory address about 16 Mb'

 >> Is something amiss ? Do I bring my box down to 64Mb and buy another
 >> kite with the 'lost' 32Mb..?

Here's the deal with PC memory:

  Memory above 1MB can't be addressed in real mode (but this is not an
  issue on an OS/2 system).

  Memory above 16MB can't be addressed by certain types of ISA cards 
  (e.g. most AT-bus SCSI controllers), since the AT bus has only 24 address
  lines. (This is not a problem for EISA or PCI cards.)

  Memory above 64MB often isn't cacheable without upgrading the cache chips
  on the motherboard (this fact is often buried deep in the documentation,
  if mentioned at all).

Those are the reasons why those limits keep cropping up. As to whether
your additional 32MB is being used, I would suspect from the figures above
that it isn't, presumably due to being non-cacheable.

-- 
Andrew Gierth (andrewg@microlise.co.uk)

"Ceterum censeo Microsoftam delendam esse" - Alain Knaff in nanam
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