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Started by Clive Humble
Mon, 30 Sep 1996 00:00
RAM > 64Mb.. is this normal ?
Author: Clive Humble
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 00:00
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 00:00
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Hi chaps,
I've just added a few more chips to my PC.
Here's the output from 4OS2's 'memory' command
100,249,600 bytes total physical RAM
663,478,272 bytes total resident RAM
9,027,584 bytes largest free block
4,096 bytes total environment
2,104 bytes free
4,096 bytes total alias
3,515 bytes free
1,024 bytes total history.
The BIOS reports 96Mb..
GammaTech System Information says..
[snip]
Total physical memory: 97 MB
Total resident memory: 8 MB
Total available memory: 646 MB
Maximum bytes of memory in private arena: 165 MB
Maximum bytes of memory in shared arena: 355 MB
[snip]
System Information Tool reports...
*********** System Information Tool - ***********
*********** Installed Memory Amounts ***********
Memory Amounts by Operating System
Total amount memory detected by OS/2 : 97,900 Kilobytes
Total bytes of memory locked by OS/2 : 8,772 Kilobytes
Total amount of virtual memory free : 651,456 Kilobytes
Page size of memory : 4,096 Bytes
Memory Amounts by Type
Base Memory : 640 Kilobytes
Total Usable : 65,152 Kilobytes
Extended Memory : 64,512 Kilobytes
System Board Memory : 65,152 Kilobytes
Cacheable Memory : 65,152 Kilobytes
*********** System Information Tool - ***********
What's with the 'Total amount detected' and the last three
stats..?
The plot thickens..
*********** Memory address ranges recognized by this system ***********
Memory address range under 1 Megabyte
System RAM : 00000000 - 0009FFFF (640) Kilobytes
Video RAM : 000A0000 - 000BFFFF (128) Kilobytes
Adapter ROMs : 000C0000 - 000DFFFF (128) Kilobytes
System ROM : 000E0000 - 000FFFFF (128) Kilobytes
Memory address range under 16 Megabytes
System RAM : 00100000 - 00FFFFFF (15,360) Kilobytes
Memory address range above 16 Megabytes
System RAM : 01000000 - 12FFFFFF (49,152) Kilobytes
*********** System Information Tool - ***********
What's with the 'Memory address about 16 Mb'
Is something amiss ? Do I bring my box down to 64Mb and buy another
kite with the 'lost' 32Mb..?
Mmmn.. or am I missing something..?
Cheers!
Clive
,c.
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Re: RAM > 64Mb.. is this normal ?
Author: Stanley Chow
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 00:00
Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 00:00
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In article <844098206snz129.os2.7@artin.glassnet.com>, Clive Humble <chumble@glassnet.com> wrote: > >Hi chaps, > > >I've just added a few more chips to my PC. > [ output from 4OS2 memory, and GammaTech Sysinfo] I think I would ignore these two and just rely on ... >*********** System Information Tool - *********** >*********** Installed Memory Amounts *********** >Memory Amounts by Operating System >Total amount memory detected by OS/2 : 97,900 Kilobytes >Total bytes of memory locked by OS/2 : 8,772 Kilobytes >Total amount of virtual memory free : 651,456 Kilobytes >Page size of memory : 4,096 Bytes >Memory Amounts by Type >Base Memory : 640 Kilobytes >Total Usable : 65,152 Kilobytes >Extended Memory : 64,512 Kilobytes >System Board Memory : 65,152 Kilobytes >Cacheable Memory : 65,152 Kilobytes >*********** System Information Tool - *********** > >What's with the 'Total amount detected' and the last three >stats..? I am pretty sure "Total detected" is what OS/2 thinks as the total amount of physically installed RAM, and it looks like the entire 96 meg was found. The last four lines certainly look like only 64 meg is used. On my machine with 64 Meg, the breakdown by type is exactly the same. >What's with the 'Memory address about 16 Mb' There are a number of "magic" addresses in the PC games; the best known is of course the 640K low-ram, but 1 meg and 16 meg are also special, which is probably why OS/2 reports them separatly. > >Is something amiss ? Do I bring my box down to 64Mb and buy another >kite with the 'lost' 32Mb..? Strange, my 64 Meg machine has exactly the same ranges; sure looks like OS/2 is using only 64 meg. There may be BIOS or other h/w switches that you need to flip; I recalled there being some patch for some brand of motherboards to go above some size (sorry about being so vague, but it wasn't something that worried me, so I didn't look at the details). -- Stanley Chow; schow@bnr.ca, stanley.chow-ott@nt.com; (613) 763-2831 Bell Northern Research Ltd., PO Box 3511 Station C, Ottawa, Ontario Me? Represent other people? Don't make them laugh so hard.
Re: RAM > 64Mb.. is this normal ?
Author: Andrew Gierth
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 00:00
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 00:00
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> In article <844098206snz129.os2.7@artin.glassnet.com>, > Clive Humble <chumble@glassnet.com> wrote: >> >> Hi chaps, >> >> >> I've just added a few more chips to my PC. >> ... >> *********** System Information Tool - *********** >> *********** Installed Memory Amounts *********** >> Memory Amounts by Operating System >> Total amount memory detected by OS/2 : 97,900 Kilobytes >> Total bytes of memory locked by OS/2 : 8,772 Kilobytes >> Total amount of virtual memory free : 651,456 Kilobytes >> Page size of memory : 4,096 Bytes >> Memory Amounts by Type >> Base Memory : 640 Kilobytes >> Total Usable : 65,152 Kilobytes >> Extended Memory : 64,512 Kilobytes >> System Board Memory : 65,152 Kilobytes >> Cacheable Memory : 65,152 Kilobytes >> *********** System Information Tool - *********** >> >> What's with the 'Total amount detected' and the last three >> stats..? ... >> What's with the 'Memory address about 16 Mb' >> Is something amiss ? Do I bring my box down to 64Mb and buy another >> kite with the 'lost' 32Mb..? Here's the deal with PC memory: Memory above 1MB can't be addressed in real mode (but this is not an issue on an OS/2 system). Memory above 16MB can't be addressed by certain types of ISA cards (e.g. most AT-bus SCSI controllers), since the AT bus has only 24 address lines. (This is not a problem for EISA or PCI cards.) Memory above 64MB often isn't cacheable without upgrading the cache chips on the motherboard (this fact is often buried deep in the documentation, if mentioned at all). Those are the reasons why those limits keep cropping up. As to whether your additional 32MB is being used, I would suspect from the figures above that it isn't, presumably due to being non-cacheable. -- Andrew Gierth (andrewg@microlise.co.uk) "Ceterum censeo Microsoftam delendam esse" - Alain Knaff in nanam
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