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goyal@utdallas.edu (Warped) writes:
:I'm looking for advice on good books & magazines to read to gain
:a good understanding of the basic technologies of networking...

You might consider getting a copy of "Introduction to 
Networking". Que publishes it.

Barry Nance
  author of "Using OS/2 Warp", "Introduction to Networking",
  "Client/Server LAN Programming", "Networking Windows for Workgroups",
  and "Connecting with LAN Server". BYTE Magazine Contributing Editor.

Warped wrote:
> 
> Hello.
> 
> I'm looking for advice on good books & magazines to read to gain
> a good understanding of the basic technologies of networking/internet.

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Daniel Gene Luechtefeld

In article <4mjt18$43j@news.utdallas.edu>, goyal@utdallas.edu (Warped) wrote:
>I'm looking for advice on good books & magazines to read to gain
>a good understanding of the basic technologies of networking/internet.
>
>My cousin told me he wants to develop at least a basic level of
>understanding of the core technolgies.

If s/he has a computer, tell him to do a Lycos search on the topics of 
interest. It will keep him/her busier than you can imagine.

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:>I'm looking for advice on good books & magazines to read to gain
:>a good understanding of the basic technologies of networking/internet.
:>My cousin told me he wants to develop at least a basic level of
:>understanding of the core technolgies.
:>I'm not sure if any magazines will cover this, but I would like
:>advice on which magazines are best to stay current.
:>He said he isn't really interested in products, or which company
:>makes the fastest computer for under $2k, etc.
:>Finally, he is level of understanding would probably best be put
:>as novice.

Hi!  I'm the original poster.  I have already received a few
replies(thanks!), and I just wanted to add that my cousin does *not* have
access to the Internet yet, so he can't access any helpful information that
is on the 'net.  I have received a few WWW sites, and I'm going to keep them
for future reference, but for now I'd really appreciate advice on which
books/magazines are best.

Thanks!!

temp@or.ary (temp) wrote:

>Hi!  I'm the original poster.  I have already received a few
>replies(thanks!), and I just wanted to add that my cousin does *not* have
>access to the Internet yet, so he can't access any helpful information that

Get access. Reading about something and actually playing with it are
two totally different things.

That said...

>is on the 'net.  I have received a few WWW sites, and I'm going to keep them
>for future reference, but for now I'd really appreciate advice on which
>books/magazines are best.

Read. Anything. It doesn't matter that much when you start - heck, if
he's really a novice then even Computer Shopper can be informative
(for, oh say, about a day. Then the massive inaccuracies take over).
If PC Magazine still runs their Tech columns (argh, can't remember the
names of any of them - but they covered topics like the
286/386/486/Pentium architecture as each chip was released, the
low-down on the architectures of various OS's, had good programming
columns in a variety of languages, etc) it's a good start. Byte is
also well known for such, and from their covers it looks like they've
managed to stay a little bit more true to the high-end computer users.
For BBS/Networking, Boardwatch isn't bad. Or at least it didn't used
to be.

Now note, I haven't read a "mainstream" computer magazine in several
years. I started reading PC Week and Infoworld a few years ago, and
while they lack the true technical articles, they do cover the
industry as a whole fairly well. There are similar weeklies for
Networking in particular as well.

As for books - I dunno any beginner ones. Middle to high end is
largely dominated by O'Reilly & Associates (aka Nutshell books).
They're reasonably priced, well written, humorous, and pack about 3x
as much information as the other books. For TCP/IP, I highly recommend
the Steven's books (I think that's the author). My copy is out on loan
right now, so I can't give an ISBN. It is a very high-end, technically
detailed overview of the TCP/IP stack and many of the application
level  protocols which use it. Of course, no overview of networking is
complete without a book on the OSI networking architecture.
Unfortunately, I don't remember a good one to suggest.

One good way to get good books is to write to the computing
departments of well known colleges & universities and find out what
they use for coursework in networking and operating systems. I'd
suggest contacting schools such as MIT, CalTech, Georgia Tech,
Carnagie Mellon, and so forth.

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In article <4mmal5$eam@what.why.net>, toms@why.net (Tom Sorensen) writes:
|> temp@or.ary (temp) wrote:
|> >is on the 'net.  I have received a few WWW sites, and I'm going to keep them
|> >for future reference, but for now I'd really appreciate advice on which
|> >books/magazines are best.
|> 
|> Read. Anything. It doesn't matter that much when you start - heck, if
|> he's really a novice then even Computer Shopper can be informative
|> (for, oh say, about a day. Then the massive inaccuracies take over).
|>...
|> As for books - I dunno any beginner ones. Middle to high end is
|> largely dominated by O'Reilly & Associates (aka Nutshell books).
|> They're reasonably priced, well written, humorous, and pack about 3x
|> as much information as the other books. For TCP/IP, I highly recommend
|> the Steven's books (I think that's the author). My copy is out on loan
|> right now, so I can't give an ISBN. It is a very high-end, technically
|> detailed overview of the TCP/IP stack and many of the application
|> level  protocols which use it.

  You refer to the books by Douglas Comer, which I also strongly
recommend.  These are not light-weight texts, but rather books for
people who really want to understand networking in depth.  David
Stevens coauthored Volume 3.  There are four books in the series, all
published by Prentice-Hall:
	Volume 1: Principles, Protocols, and Architectures
	Volume 2: Design, Implementation, and Internals
	Volume 3: Client-Server Programming and Applications 
		(BSD Socket Version)
	Volume 3: Client-Server Programming and Applications 
		(AT&T TLI Version)
(That last title might be wrong, since I don't have that volume.)  You
should be able to find these at any good bookstore, and certainly at a
book store near any university, e.g., SMU, UTD, etc.

|>                                 Of course, no overview of networking is
|> complete without a book on the OSI networking architecture.
|> Unfortunately, I don't remember a good one to suggest.

  How about Tannenbaum's textbook?  That one seems to be used a _lot_ as
a course text.

|> Tom Sorensen * toms@why.net * http://www.gt.ed.net/sorensen/computer2ir.html

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peterson@csc.ti.com (Bob Peterson) wrote:

>|> as much information as the other books. For TCP/IP, I highly recommend
>|> the Steven's books (I think that's the author). My copy is out on loan
>|> right now, so I can't give an ISBN. It is a very high-end, technically
>|> detailed overview of the TCP/IP stack and many of the application
>|> level  protocols which use it.

>  You refer to the books by Douglas Comer, which I also strongly
>recommend.  These are not light-weight texts, but rather books for
>people who really want to understand networking in depth.  David
>Stevens coauthored Volume 3.  There are four books in the series, all
>published by Prentice-Hall:

Nope, I refer to a series of books published by Richard Stevens. The
one book I have is still out on loan, so I still can't give detailed
info. The same publisher prints several well regarded deep UNIX texts
though, and it's not Prentice Hall.

Not to say that the ones you recommend aren't good as well, but I
remembered the authors name when he corrected me on a detail of the
UDP protocol in a UNIX newsgroup recently...

>|>                                 Of course, no overview of networking is
>|> complete without a book on the OSI networking architecture.
>|> Unfortunately, I don't remember a good one to suggest.

>  How about Tannenbaum's textbook?  That one seems to be used a _lot_ as
>a course text.

That sound extremely familiar and may very well be the one used where
I went (missed the course, otherwise I'd have the book).

--
Tom Sorensen * toms@why.net * http://www.gt.ed.net/sorensen/computer2ir.html
"I was told I had a lot of repressed anger." "And now?" | Fight the CDA |blue|
"And now it's not repressed." -- Marcus Cole and        |Responsibility | () |
  Lennier, "Ceremonies of Light and Darkness", Babylon 5|starts at home | /\ |

In article <4mu0nc$lmc@what.why.net> toms@why.net (Tom Sorensen) writes:

   peterson@csc.ti.com (Bob Peterson) wrote:

   >|> as much information as the other books. For TCP/IP, I highly recommend
   >|> the Steven's books (I think that's the author). My copy is out on loan
   >|> right now, so I can't give an ISBN. It is a very high-end, technically
   >|> detailed overview of the TCP/IP stack and many of the application
   >|> level  protocols which use it.

   >  You refer to the books by Douglas Comer, which I also strongly
   >recommend.  These are not light-weight texts, but rather books for
   >people who really want to understand networking in depth.  David
   >Stevens coauthored Volume 3.  There are four books in the series, all
   >published by Prentice-Hall:

   Nope, I refer to a series of books published by Richard Stevens. The
   one book I have is still out on loan, so I still can't give detailed
   info. The same publisher prints several well regarded deep UNIX texts
   though, and it's not Prentice Hall.

I have "UNIX Network Programming" by W. Richard Stevens, published by
Prentice Hall.  ISBN: 0-13-949876-1.  Check out
http://www.prenhall.com/ and search for author Stevens.
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