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Brooks Adair wrote:
> 
> In message <5gjjal$1k5$1@ralph.vnet.net> - glenco@vnet.net (Glen)17 Mar 1997
> 14:09:25 GMT writes:
> :>
> :>Brooks Adair (badair@magg.net) wrote:
> :>: What's realy stupid is that Java and OpenDoc should not even be looked at as
> :>: compeating technoligies, they are complementary. IBM should be working to
> :>: integrate them.
> :>
> :>Within the same article from Infoworld, IBM and Sun are looking into
> :>seeing if they can use any part of OpenDoc to make Java Beans more
> :>robust. Nothing has been decided on but I view it as a positive move by
> :>IBM.
> :>
> :>--Glen
> :>
> 
> :>   By the fall of 1996, the end was obvious. In October, John M.
> :>   Thompson repudiated the technology, saying that OpenDoc had not
> :>   ridden the Internet wave effectively. He suggested that the
> :>   technology should be cannibalized and included in the JavaBeans
> :>   object framework.
> 
> I noticed that the previous article also said somthing like that, but
> "cannibalized" did not sound like a full intigration.

My concern is not about the OpenDoc codebase but the interoperability
OpenDoc provides me as a potential user of the technology.  will I be
able to do what I wanted with OpenDoc in JavaBeans?  I've decided to
evaluate the VisualAge for Java tool IBM promises for late 1Q 1997.  It
will support JavaBeans.  To me the point is that I can begin to make
Objects of different processes and then have the communicate with an
Object Request Broker that can glue them together. I want to use tools
to create my objects and have my objects interoperate with other parts
via a standard interface.  If that's via JavBenas then so be it.  I
couldn't care if I eventually use a 3rd party ActiveX "object" in the
system although I doubt it will exist on the platforms I use.  In theory
the ActiveX parts can be wrapped in Javabeans.

> Does anyone have any information on IBM's Arabica project?  Is it actually
> going to be a full merging of the two technologies, or just take parts of
> OpenDoc and add them to JavaBeans?

I don't know the difference between merging and removing OpenDoc parts
to add to JavaBeans.  Really they do complement each other with OpenDoc
being a system centric technology and JavaBeans being a network enabled
technology weaker in places OpenDoc is strong.  I think that's a
relative term to say "merged".  IMHO the momentum is with the JavaBeans
Brandanme so I suspect all code will be branded as JavaBeans.
 
> I just found a wab page last night that discussed CI Labs efforts to do a
> compleate intigration, but I did not find anything indicating if IBM was
> involved.

CI Labs needs IBM's support.  I read a comment from CIL that essentially
said they were flexiable about JavBeans or OpenDoc.