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Re: A new lease on life: (WAS: Requiem for OpenDoc)

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From: crobato
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:00
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In <5gvmjd$2eoc$1@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, wannin@ibm.net writes:
>In <5go9jg$9si@usenet88.supernews.com>, brian@anv.net writes:
>>In <5gnuil$1hb4$1@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net>, baxte17@ibm.net  (Kevin J Baxter) writes:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>>As most of us know, the vast majority of this gross revenue is derived
>>>from IBM's mainframe operations (S/390, MVS, MVS/ES, MVS,VSE, VS,
>>>and whatever other letter combinations you can put together).
>>
>>
>>     Really?  Do you have a relevant URL that you wouldn't mind 
>>posting?  I could swear I read that the AS/400 group was the single 
>>most profitable division of IBM.
>>
>>
>
>Depends on how you count the "beans".  S/390 is still the largest revenue group - i.e. most sales.   But when it come to
>profit is gets a little fussy - and difficult to get past IBM internal only.  The AS/400 group will maintain that they are the most
>profitable for IBM - and on many scales they are.  But they will include drag along revenue from other division. i.e. disk and tape 
>drives sold for AS/400 by the Storage division.  This is storage division profit, but would not exist if not for the AS/400.  
>By the way, IBM know sells more disk and tape for the AS/400 then for the mainframe.  
>        So how do you count your beans?
>

Of course the drives sold for the AS/400 by the Storage Division make 
one hell of profit.  God forgive me for saying Jesus Christ, when the
space in the drive in my machine ran out, I have to order one from IBM
(whose quote was cheaper than my VAR's) for $2600 bucks approximately.
$2600 for one lousy SCSI whatsover RAID whatsoever ##$$%@& 2GB hard 
drive including installation!!!  What kind of hard drive is that?  Made 
of Platinum platters and Gold casings?   What the hell is IBM's cost on 
that?   I am not going to tell anyone what it costs to add RAM to an
AS/400 as there are sensitive souls out there who can't take the shock.

IBM is sure is counting beans---my beans, lots of beans.  Maybe it's not
so hard for an IS officer to submit a recommendation to his superior for
a purchase.  After all they are but *employees*; its company money that 
they are spending.  But I'm no employee, and this is my business.  It 
sure eats my gut to sign a check for $2600 bucks of your hard earned 
money for a 2GB hard drive.

I have no trouble believing IBM makes big bucks on AS/400 hard drives.

>
>Mike Wanninger
>AS/400 guru and recently ex-IBM
>Team OS/2
>

Rgds,

Chris

AS/400 user, IBM customer and Team OS/2 too.

Famous People on the Day Windows 95 is Launched---
Neil Armstrong---"One Small Fortune for Bill Gates, 
One Giant Leap backward for Mankind."
President Roosevelt---"This date shall live in infamy."
*** crobato@kuentos.guam.net *** TKS for the Contributions.
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From: crobato@kuentos.guam.net
Subject: Re: A new lease on life: (WAS: Requiem for OpenDoc)
Date: 1997/03/24
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