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hi, i don't want to start flaming, but you're like the first
person i hear who likes NT better than solaris. in fact, i just
want to listen, for i have no experience in solaris, little in
NT. i would describe myself as a competent linux user. 

i am interested in hearing why you think NT is better according
to your experience. here goes:

1. you mentioned ease of administration. as far as i know, NT
does not support scripting, or does not have as strong
scripting as UNIX, because everything is point-click. i run
Arcserve on NT for backup, and it's pain in the butt to specify
the same options every time. if you can point me to a more
automated method, i'd love to hear it. on UNIX, you can write a
script, pass some arguments, very simple.

2. you also mentioned running a telnet server on NT. the thing
is, what can you do with telnet? almost every applications i've
seen (Backup Exec, MS-SQL Executive, Task Manager, etc) run on
graphical interface. for example, how would i start backup on
MS-SQL Executive through telnet? if you can show me how,
that'll save me lots of commuting. :)

3. how do you shut down the GUI? what can you do after you shut
down the GUI?

4. uptime issue: you said the RAS was up for 2 yrs, then
rebooted after you try to install a bad program. isn't
protection against malfunctioning process one of the essential
jobs of the OS? most universities run a flavor of UNIX, and
students compile and run badly written programs on it everyday,
yet the OS doesn't crash. it also depends on the load of the
server, is the RAS under heavy attack during its 2 yrs uptime?

5. > I love my Sparc's but they are slower than my NT boxes.
are you comparing them on same level of hardware? if not, what
you said could be misleading and nonrepresentative.

oh, and by the way, microsoft is on top because of its
marketing, not its products, not ease of use of its
environment.

robert


Tai wrote:
> 
> NT handles the job quite well. Unfortunately, most environments are not as
> well versed in NT and have had many problems with it. Our environment uses
> NT and RAS for all purposes. We have a mix of NT40, Citrix and older WINDD
> servers and they all run fine. We have telnet installed for a remote command
> line prompt.
> 
> The RAS server I have been using personally has been up for 2 years. It did
> not have a major problem until I attempted to install Suns NFS program. It
> is not written well and causes problems with the system. So I use
> Chameleon's NFS server instead.
> 
> Again if you want ease of administration and access to more applications,
> don't let anyone fool you. Microsoft is not on top because their product is
> inferior, the only complaints come from people who have little, limited or
> no experience with the environment.
> 
> And to prove it, most people cannot tell how to shut the GUI down and just
> run the server with less overhead.
> 
> I love my Sparc's but they are slower than my NT boxes.
> 
> For all you wanna be flamers - I have 3/60's, 4/260's, 4/280's, IPC's, Sparc
> 2's, and Sparc 5's in my inventory. So keep you flames in your pocket for
> someone who does not know SunOS / Solaris.
> 
> Tai ( When the fix all the OS'es we'll be out of a job ) Wyatt
> 
> PJ wrote in message <35bc3bf5.0@ruby.hknet.com>...
> >here is my question...
> >We use Windows95 to dial-up our ISPs and then make an connection (PPP) to
> >the UNIX server in the ISP, right?
> >So, why always UNIX??  Not NT 4.0 server? Can NT handle this job? if yes,
> >why not ISP use NT instead?
> >
> >

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