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Hey now, Brett,
	    A couple of ideas.
     Apple Internet Router can turn a Mac into a LocalTalk-EtherTalk
router. It runs in the background and is available from Apple.
     Liason is a third party product that does the same thing. Company name
escapes me. WARNING: These are routers and need to be properly configuired,
if you are part of a larger AppleTalk network. Talk to you local networking
people.
    Buuuutttt, you may not have to do this, if you are not part of a large
AppleTalk network. If the big network doesn't support AppleTalk, let's say
only TCP/IP (Or you don't care about the other AppleTalk devices), you can
easily configure your Mac to speak two different protocals through two
different wires. No additional software needed. 
     Let me know if you need more info.

curt
Curt.Hamilton@med.umich.edu

Brett L Sivies (sivbl@win4.vut.EDU.AU) wrote:
: Now the problem is this.  He now has an ethernet card in his mac
: server, which he wants to have connected to the ethernet to receive
: mail and take advantage of other equipment on the network.  BUT. he
: cannot once he has changed the network software use the laser printers
: in his office area, or use the mac server from his laptop because the
: appletalk is touted through the ethernet card.
: 
: Is there ANY software that will allow both ethernet and local talk to
: be send from the same mac??  I remember an apple sales person
: mentioning something about using a macintosh as a gateway server from
: local talk to ethertalk, but I cannot remember who said it or if it
: could be done...

Yes.. There are at least two solutions..

If you're only accessing TCP/IP machines via the Ethernet, you can set MacTCP
to use the ethernet interface independent of the Appletalk connection, and
hence, talk appletalk out the LocAltalk port, and TCP/IP out the Ethernet card.

If you need to access Appletalk services through both cards, you can get hold
of Apple's Internet Router.  This allows you to have multiple active Appletalk
connections from your mac (eg: Ethernet and two Localtalk (using both serial
ports)).  The downside is that your machine would also become a router between
the two networks which could slow your machine down a lot if others on the 
Ethernet decide to print to localtalk printers via your machine :)

I wonder if there's a way of using AIR's net interface without running the
Router software - perhaps there is, I haven't ever researched this..

Ken
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In <1993Jan13.010837.12653@cujo.curtin.edu.au> ken@cujo.curtin.edu.au (Ken Taylor) writes:

>Brett L Sivies (sivbl@win4.vut.EDU.AU) wrote:
>: Now the problem is this.  He now has an ethernet card in his mac
>: server, which he wants to have connected to the ethernet to receive
>: mail and take advantage of other equipment on the network.  BUT. he
>: cannot once he has changed the network software use the laser printers
>: in his office area, or use the mac server from his laptop because the
>: appletalk is routed through the ethernet card.
>: 
>: Is there ANY software that will allow both ethernet and local talk to
>: be send from the same mac??  I remember an apple sales person
>: mentioning something about using a macintosh as a gateway server from
>: local talk to ethertalk, but I cannot remember who said it or if it
>: could be done...

>Yes.. There are at least two solutions..

>If you're only accessing TCP/IP machines via the Ethernet, you can set MacTCP
>to use the ethernet interface independent of the Appletalk connection, and
>hence, talk appletalk out the LocAltalk port, and TCP/IP out the Ethernet card.

>If you need to access Appletalk services through both cards, you can get hold
>of Apple's Internet Router.  This allows you to have multiple active Appletalk
>connections from your mac (eg: Ethernet and two Localtalk (using both serial
>ports)).  The downside is that your machine would also become a router between
>the two networks which could slow your machine down a lot if others on the 
>Ethernet decide to print to localtalk printers via your machine :)

Or you can bridge EtherTalk and LocalTalk using products from Sonic
Systems with less overhead than Apple Internet Router. I've lost track of
how many times I've posted the following, so forgive me if it's the
umpteenth time, but until the question stops being asked... ;-)

I saw the following software-only solutions, for bridging Ethernet and    
LocalTalk, at the Mactivity conference in July. SuperBridge should do what
you want. In the following, "Show" refers to the Mactivity show price.    

              EtherBridge Series from Sonic Systems

Product       Description                                Retail   Show

LaserBridge   Allows up to 5 LocalTalk printers to be     $199    $100
              shared on Ethernet

PowerBridge   Allows any Mac to be connected to Ethernet   149      75

SuperBridge   Allows up to 5 Macs and/or LocalTalk         249     125
              printers to be connected to Ethernet

Sonic Systems
333 W. El Camino Real #280
Sunnyvale, CA 94087
Tel: 408-736-1900
Fax: 408-736-7228