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Article #379Re: PPP and/or SLIP
From: Superuser - Rashid Karimov
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1993 07:39
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1993 07:39
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Hi ! > From: jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley) > Subject: Re: PPP and/or SLIP > In article <CE15yG.4z8@qsss08.gs.com> bk@qsss01.gs.com writes: > >I'd like to know what the diff between PPP and SLIP are. I'm trying to connect > >to the internet via jvncnet and they told me they use PPP, actually they > >use MorningStar PPP. Depending on who I talk to I get different responses about > >what each of the protocols are. First I'm told they are not compatible. > >Then I hear that PPP is just a negotiator of whether to use slip or cslip (compressed IMHO these two are rather different protos. PPP uses different proce- ssing on outgoing/incoming IP datagramm. It uses so called HDLC driver. The next difference in user interface. PPP uses PPPD - PPP daemon,wich waits for connection requests from PPP , establish it by running UUCP style calling & login script & finally put PPP module under IP to allow them to send datagramms. But, is PPP itself responsible for proper routing after establishing the PPP connection - this is a question !? Suppose I have IP provider with IP 222.222.222.222 ,which should be used as default route to outside world. How do I say to PPP to start connection to 222.222.222.222, when I want to make ftp sco.com ??? Should I use route add default 222.222.222.222 1 before it ? But phisycal interface doesn't exist this time yet ? IMHO , as PPP stands for Point-to-Point, it doesn't allow use it for routing at all :( A asked some :) SCO tech. about PPP in TCP 1.2.0 - & was replied it's based on _old_ RFC , so it doesn't work good enough with modern PPPs. But as for TCP 1.2.1 - PPP should be very robust in this release ... Thus I was told, at least... > >slip). This person also tells me that MorningStar PPP runs all 3, ppp, slip and cslip. > [ some stuff skipped ] > It took six weeks until one of the them said to me, "hey, you don't want to > run PPP to talk to the terminal server; you want to run compressed slip." > > The light went on: what they knew about was setting up the Morningstar PPP > package to run compressed slip. > > [I have never seen or touched Morningstar's package, and I have never heard > anything but praise for Morningstar; but I'd paid a pretty penny for my SCO > software, and right in front of me are man pages for slip, ppp, pppd...] > > The other side of my problem concerned SCO ODT 3.0 (Unix 3.2v4.2). I could > connect to the JVNC terminal server, but not ping a thing there, or connect By what mean ? PPP or SLIP ? > to rest of the world in any way, until I knocked out all the ppp chains I > had, and the other slip chain as well. When you ask SCO Unix to add a route, Do you mean all those chains we can see doing "netconfig" are removed now ? Including sl[n],ppp,& loopback ? > I commented out the slattach line in /etc/tcp, since SCO slattach doesn't > know how to do any dialing, and only deals with a specific tty line, so I > didn't want such a command to be launched at boot time. > > Now, after tcp starts, I launch my connection with this sequence: > I call xcfront, a shell script which calls xc until xc finds an unused What is xc ? Does it come with ODT 3.0 ? This way, how all those STREAMS modules are bring to obtain a SLIP interface ? SY Rashid Karimov, Saratov, Russia.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1122ea,ef8eea128b1b0154 X-Google-Attributes: gid1122ea,public X-Google-Thread: 103eaf,f2618f42352647cd X-Google-Attributes: gid103eaf,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1993-10-06 23:25:23 PST Newsgroups: comp.protocols.ppp,biz.sco.general Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uunet!demos!sarnod!root From: root@sarnode.saratov.su (Superuser - Rashid Karimov) Subject: Re: PPP and/or SLIP Organization: sarnode Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1993 07:39:18 GMT Message-ID: <1993Oct06.073918.3279@sarnode.saratov.su> References: <CE15yG.4z8@qsss08.gs.com> <CECI3K.3Hp@jpradley.jpr.com> Lines: 75