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Anybody know if InDesign lists the fonts as 45, 55, 65, and 75, as Photoshop
does? I did read the text file accompanying the font. It seems that
Pagemaker relies on stylizing 45 and 55.
Rick

"Alan" <7ibehx001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
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> "Rick" <rauth567@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > I am using Pagemaker 7 on XP pro, and have been using Univers as the
> > "official corporate font" for 11 years. The Univers Type 1 font set from
> > Adobe comes with 8 pfb files,  UVL, UV, UVB, UVBL and the 4 oblique
files.
> >
> > In XP's Font Viewer, both the Univers Light and the Univers Bold files
show
> > with the same title, Univers 45 Light (Type 1).
> > The Univers and Univers Black files have the same title, Univers 55
(Type
> > 1).
> >
> > In pagemaker, only 45 and 55 are listed as available fonts. I have to
bold
> > and italicize them. Strangely, in Photoshop 7, all 4 weights are listed.
> >
> > My print shop has recently installed a new Heidelberg direct to plate
> > system, driven by a PC (at least for my files, he has a Mac too) and the
> > printer has difficulty producing my pubs with the bolding applied. They
all
> > come out as very loose, normal weight. He says I need actual 65 and 75
> > weight font files, which do not seem to exist in the PC world.
> > I managed to work around the problem for now by providing him with hires
pdf
> > files.
> > Is there a setting somewhere on the imagesetter driver to accept or
ignore
> > stylized weights?
> > Would this problem go away if I migrated to InDesign?
>
> At the end of this I've pasted the text file that accompanies the
> Univers fonts in Adobe Font Folio 9.
>
> Basically, the individual "Font names" are Univers 45, 55, 65, 75
> (light, roman, bold, black). [Photoshop is apparently using these.]
> Adobe have given these Windows "menu names" grouping them into two
> familes, "Univers 45" and "Univers 55". So "Univers 45, bold" is
> actually (or should be) the font named Univers 65; and "Univers 55,
> bold" is actually "Univers 75". Most Windows apps should see these
> names.
>
> So you have all the fonts you need, you just have to make sure the
> software uses them.  This is a PageMaker question, really.
>
> I loaded these fonts and they appear to work okay in PageMaker 6.5 and
> Win 98.
>
> The other question is what files are you giving the output people?
> PageMaker files? If so, it's possible they haven't got the fonts
> installed correctly on their system.
>
> You can solve a lot of font issues if you can make PDF files on your
> PC and give that with the fonts embedded. If you rely on the output
> people to make adjustments (replacing images, etc) that can make it
> more difficult for them though.
>
> Otherwise, there are many PageMaker forums you might seek advice.
> EG: <http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/main.html>,
> or the general prepress newsgroup comp.publish.prepress
>
> UNIVERS.TXT FILE================
> Package Univers
>
> As a student in Zurich, Adrian Frutiger began work on Univers, which
> would
> eventually be released in 1957 by the Deberny & Peignot foundry in
> Paris.
> The design is a neo-grotesque, similar to its contemporary, Helvetica.
> With
> the release of Univers, Frutiger began using numbers rather than names
> to
> designate variations of weight, width, and slope. The full Univers
> family
> consists of twenty-one typefaces, and Frutiger has used this numerical
> system
> on other designs, including Serifa and Frutiger. Linotype also has
> adopted
> this numerical system for many other faces. All twenty-one Univers
> faces
> were designed to work together, so they can be mixed in a variety of
> ways.
> Their legibility lends itself to a large variety of applications, from
> text and headlines to packaging and signage.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> Many PC applications have separate menus for selecting typeface
> families and
> typeface styles. Most applications let you choose among regular, bold,
> and
> italic styles in the Style menu. However, some Adobe Type Library
> packages
> include font software with additional style variations and stroke
> weight
> variations. To select these variations, you need to know how the bold
> and
> italic styles are linked to the base typeface. For example, the New
> Caledonia
> typeface includes semi-bold, bold, and black. To use New Caledonia
> Black, you
> need to choose New Caledonia SemiBold from the application's Font menu
> (or
> equivalent), and then choose Bold from the Style menu (or equivalent).
>
> If you are using a Microsoft Windows application, Ventura Publisher or
> Microsoft Word, follow the guide to typeface style selection below.
> (The
> Microsoft Word menu name will be as listed below but with any spaces
> in it
> removed.) If you are using an application other than these, refer to
> the
> application's documentation.
>
> If you are reading this document using Windows Notepad, please make
> sure to
> set your left and right margins to zero before printing.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> PostScript                    Menu Name Plus Style Links          DOS
> File
> Name                          (BOLD, ITALIC, and BOLDITALIC)      Name
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> Univers-Light                 Univers 45 Light
> UVL_____.PFB
> Univers-Bold                  Univers 45 Light,BOLD
> UVB_____.PFB
> Univers-LightOblique          Univers 45 Light,ITALIC
> UVLO____.PFB
> Univers-BoldOblique           Univers 45 Light,BOLDITALIC
> UVBO____.PFB
> Univers                       Univers 55
> UV______.PFB
> Univers-Black                 Univers 55,BOLD
> UVBL____.PFB
> Univers-Oblique               Univers 55,ITALIC
> UVO_____.PFB
> Univers-BlackOblique          Univers 55,BOLDITALIC
> UVBLO___.PFB
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
>
> The typefaces in this package are numbered according to the Frutiger
> system,
> which denotes weight, width and slope. The following table shows how
> these
> numbers correspond to the menu names and style links of the fonts.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> Menu Name Plus Style Links           Full Name
> (BOLD, ITALIC, and BOLDITALIC)       (with Frutiger Number)
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> Univers 45 Light                     Univers 45 Light
> Univers 45 Light,BOLD                Univers 65 Bold
> Univers 45 Light,ITALIC              Univers 45 Light Oblique
> Univers 45 Light,BOLDITALIC          Univers 65 Bold Oblique
> Univers 55                           Univers 55 Roman
> Univers 55,BOLD                      Univers 75 Black
> Univers 55,ITALIC                    Univers 55 Oblique
> Univers 55,BOLDITALIC                Univers 75 Black Oblique
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----