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Article #213Re: Cuervo, I disagree: ShareSniffer Released
From: Scott Norwood
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:10
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 14:10
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In article <3A97B353.F5610BBA@mynetwatchman.com>, Lawrence Baldwin <baldwinlSPAMMENOT@mynetwatchman.com> wrote: > >YOU define who is authorized. If you put up a firewall which blocks >port 25, then you have established a policy that 25 is not authorized. >If you receive unsolicited scans against port 25, then report it. >If you block port 25 AND have your public mail server behind this >firewall, then you are a perplexing individual indeed. Suppose that someone from your site sends me mail or posts to Usenet with an improper From: or Reply-To: header. If I try to send mail to that person, I might end up trying to connect to your port 25. Should this make me a criminal? Suppose I happen to personally know someone at your site, but have forgotten his full first name. Should I be put behind bars for trying to connect to port 25 of your MX host to do an EXPN command on that person's username so that I can look up his name in order to then use the phone book to get his phone number and call him? Suppose I try to "finger" the person? Should the FBI break down my door and arrest me if your site happens to have disabled finger access? >I actually DON'T advocate escalating every port probe activity an >individual user sees...our system statistics indicate that 80-90% of >attack data can't conclusively identify an attack. > >See: http://www.mynetwatchman.com/listincidentsummary.asp > >I do advocate that anyone who wants to forward ALL attack to an >aggregation filter. This is a responsible way to be proactive without >risking crying wolf all the time. This approach sounds far more reasonable...
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f922c,b3c453f70036b961 X-Google-Attributes: gidf922c,public X-Google-Thread: f5dc1,b3c453f70036b961 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5dc1,public X-Google-Thread: 113850,b3c453f70036b961 X-Google-Attributes: gid113850,public X-Google-Thread: 10090f,b3c453f70036b961 X-Google-Attributes: gid10090f,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-02-24 06:10:51 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!panix!news.panix.com!not-for-mail From: snorwood@redballoon.net (Scott Norwood) Newsgroups: comp.security.firewalls,bellsouth.net.security,comp.dcom.xdsl,comp.dcom.modems.cable Subject: Re: Cuervo, I disagree: ShareSniffer Released Date: 24 Feb 2001 14:10:50 GMT Organization: Society for World Domination Lines: 36 Message-ID: <978fda$c0p$2@news.panix.com> References: <3A966412.9336DCD8@mynetwatchman.com> <FeCl6.3919$S25.55117@typhoon.sonic.net> <yd3dd4tlxa.fsf@UBEblock.psr.com> <3A97B353.F5610BBA@mynetwatchman.com> Reply-To: snorwood@redballoon.net NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: news.panix.com 983023850 12313 166.84.0.228 (24 Feb 2001 14:10:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Feb 2001 14:10:50 GMT X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test74 (May 26, 2000) Originator: snorwood@panix.com (Scott Norwood)