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Article #403Re: Covert channel
From: Daniel P. Faigin
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:50
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:50
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On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:51:23 GMT, mark@hpcvxmsr.cv.hp.com (Mark Rowe) said: > It is true that properly implemented MAC would prevent the use of my > example. That does not in any way prevent this from being an example > of a covert channel, it's simply a covert channel that can be eliminated > by MAC. Wrong, bucko! If properly implemented access controls would close the channel, then the channel is a *flaw*, not a covert channel. > MAC does not define a covert channel. I'd agree with you on this; however, covert channels other than MAC-type ones aren't interesting. Why would I care about a DAC covert channel, when I just just exploit the weaknesses inherent in DAC. > What defines a covert > channel is how the data is being transmitted. It is either overt or > covert. An overt channel is a channel that transmits data in a known > manner as intended by the system administrators. A covert channel is > anything else. Judging intent, however, is quite difficult. Let's take some examples here. Suppose I have a system where I can observe contention for a system resource, say memory. I exploit this to transmit information. That's a clear channel. Other cases aren't so clear. Look at Unix. There are many ways I can communicate with processes. Are signals a covert channel? Is the use of ptrace a covert channel? Is the use of the process number address space a covert channel? It's not always so clear cut (alas). Daniel -- [W]:The Aerospace Corp. M1/055 * POB 92957 * LA, CA 90009-2957 * 310/336-8228 [Email]:faigin@aerospace.aero.org [Vmail]:310/336-5454 Box#13149 "You can't be a rationalist in an irrational world. It isn't rational!" Dr. Rance, in Joe Orton's "What the Butler Saw"
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!wupost!usc!aero.org!faigin From: faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin) Subject: Re: Covert channel In-Reply-To: mark@hpcvxmsr.cv.hp.com's message of Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17: 51:23 GMT Message-ID: <FAIGIN.92Aug17115056@soldan.aero.org> Lines: 37 Sender: news@aero.org Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA References: <71269183717599@juju.mcs.anl.gov> <61350002@otter.hpl.hp.com> <1992Aug14.190446.11355@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> <21378@rpp386.lonestar.org> <1992Aug17.175123.3793@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:50:56 GMT