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Article #666Re: IBM password
From: Ross Anderson
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 15:39
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 15:39
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In <bontchev.718376938@fbihh>, bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev) writes: > erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes: > > > Then again, DES isn't that strong if your keys aren't chosen carefully > > (for a discussion of this, see sci.crypt). > > DES is strong enough. In fact, you have to choose very carefully, if > you want to get weak keys... :-) There are only 4 weak keys in the > whole 2^56 keyspace... I looked at what a PC dealer said was the top-selling office automation suite. It was called Da Vinci or something like that. Look, it's even got DES encryption! Wow! I wondered how they'd got that past the State Department! Until I had a closer look, that is. It takes one password of up to eight characters and produces a ciphertext file with visible eight-byte block patterns - must be ECB (or something similar but homemade). There are a lot of null strings in its cleartext file formats and so there is one dominant ciphertext block. Looks like a PC will be enough to do keysearch on this one: just encrypt a null string with all the passwords in a dictionary, and sort the list. Ross
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Newsgroups: comp.security.misc,alt.security Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pipex!pavo.csi.cam.ac.uk!cam-cl!rja14 From: rja14@cl.cam.ac.uk (Ross Anderson) Subject: Re: IBM password Message-ID: <1992Oct6.153908.1597@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Sender: news@infodev.cam.ac.uk (USENET news) Nntp-Posting-Host: ely.cl.cam.ac.uk Reply-To: rja14@cl.cam.ac.uk (Ross Anderson) Organization: U of Cambridge, England References: <bontchev.717877676@fbihh> <1992Oct5.183322.21035@unislc.uucp> <bontchev.718376938@fbihh> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:39:08 GMT Lines: 28