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Re: 8-bit news

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From: David Collier-Brown
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:24
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avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov) writes:
|It already has features nobody uses (VRFY, EXPN, SOML, SAML, TURN)
|and simply useless (HELO). Most implementations simply don't know
|what to do with all that (i know because i had a pleasure of
|implementing SMTP stuff).

  SAML and SOML are underused on the internet, yet the equivalent
on BITnet is heavily used....
  Don't take them out of the spec: you may want them later,and a standard
way of doing them is desirable.

  VRFY is utterly necessary to postmasters, and is therefor mandated by the
Hosts Requirements RFC: finger is shut down on all too many sites, and so
vrfy/expn are required to verify adressees when mail goes astray.

  And HELO is the hook for stronger authentication: even now it and thge
recieved lines allow me to spot (poorly-)forged mail at a glance.

(small flame)  If you've implemented smtp, you should really know all that...

--dave
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From: davecb@nexus.yorku.ca (David Collier-Brown)
Subject: Re: 8-bit news
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