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Article #552Re: Dumb Americans (was INTERNATIONALIZATION: JAPAN, FAR EAST)
From: Masataka Ohta
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 12:03
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 12:03
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In article <1jnlg0INN9n4@life.ai.mit.edu>
glenn@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Glenn A. Adams) writes:
Glenn, you stop saying anything on Han. You know nothing.
>>Its shape in Japanese or mainland China is
>>whose stroke count is 3, while its shape in Taiwan and Korea is
>>whose stroke count is 4. But, these different characters with differently
>>shaped radicals are unified in Unicode.
>
>Yes, this is a good example of where there is a difference in how
>people count strokes.
Wrong.
>No, this is not the way it is counted in these countries. That is, you
>cannot say that all of Taiwan and Korea always count 3 strokes; similarly
>you cannot say that all of China and Japan always count 4 strokes.
>Different people count (or write) these radicals differently independently
>of their country of origin.
Wrong.
All Chines, Japanese, Korean ALWAYS cont the stroke of
* *
****************
* *
3 and the stroke of
* *
******* *******
* *
4.
There is no exception.
>However, in all cases there is absolutely no difference in meaning.
Meaning is meaningless here. You can write Greek script with Latin alphabet
without changing meaning.
>In these cases, the CJK-JRG chose a normative count to assign to
>these characters;
You don't understand how stroke count is used.
Normative count is completely useless.
Masataka Ohta
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