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Article #553Re: Radicals Instead of Characters
From: Masataka Ohta
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 12:19
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 12:19
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In article <1jpj9sINNlie@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> crowl@jade.CS.ORST.EDU (Lawrence Crowl) writes: >>>The question I was asking was "can you _identify_ a han/kanji character >>>based on a sequence of radicals" >> >>No, you can't. Radicals are for indexing only. The rest of the character >>has its own complex shape. > >If you can use radicals for indexing, then you can use them to identify >characters. No you can't. The correspondence is not one to one. It is many to many. >>Such encoding is too lengthy. >An encoding every variant of every character ever written is not? Of course, not. >Your non-unified >approach would require roughly eighteen bits per character. What's the problem? 18 bit character set is just fine. >>Moreover, you will have to have sixteen 4000 entry tables which is as >>large as a single 64000 entry table. > >No, I don't have to have sixteen 4000 entry tables. I only need one. Could you please elaborate? Your argument leaves me unconvinced. >>If you use radical based encoding, it makes everything complex. >Could you please elaborate? Your argument leaves me unconvinced. Perhaps because you don't understand that you need sixteen 4000 entry tables. >>>But, can sixteen bits represent _all_ historical Han characters _and_ >>>the historical texts of all other languages? My guess is 16 bits can >>>_if_ Han characters are coded as radicals, >> >>Maybe nor may not be. Many complex Han characters are just unique. > >Unique in what sense? Examples? As those characters are really complex I don't write figures of them. See DIS 10646-1.2. >>BTW, from the view point of programmers, combining characters are >>just unusable. > >I am a programmer. Then, how can your program detect the character boudaries? That you can't find character boudaries without lookaheading makes all programs complex and interractive programming impossible. Are you really a programmer? Masataka Ohta
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!sh.wide!wnoc-tyo-news!cs.titech!titccy.cc.titech!necom830!mohta From: mohta@necom830.cc.titech.ac.jp (Masataka Ohta) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat Subject: Re: Radicals Instead of Characters Message-ID: <2808@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> Date: 24 Jan 93 12:19:05 GMT References: <1j9sfpINN46t@life.ai.mit.edu> <1jfgq1INNqmn@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> <2791@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp> <1jpj9sINNlie@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> Sender: news@titccy.cc.titech.ac.jp Organization: Tokyo Institute of Technology Lines: 63