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Article #653Re: Let's develop ISO sorting rules
From: Markus Kuhn
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 14:21
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 14:21
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maf@dtek.chalmers.se (Martin Forssen) writes: > I'm afraid a lot of Swedes will refuse to accept any sorting order which > places aring and adiaeresis adjacent to a. In swedish these are completely > different characters and aring and adiaeresis comes after z. All of this > IMHO of course. Isn't the Swedish convention to sort a-ring after z just as arbitrarily as the confusing old convention to sort a-diaresis in Germany as ae? There are at least a few real world applications (I don't talk about trivialities like UNIX ls), e.g. catalogs of international libraries, where an _easy_ to understand language independend sorting standard would be extremely useful. Why not standardize one for Unicode in an easy _implementable_ way? Then let's see, how many people will adopt it and will quickly forget their traditional rules. Perhaps even many users in Sweden. There are perhaps already some multilingual sorting rules common practice, but I know no one that defines an easy implementable deterministic and total ordering for ISO 10646 strings. I don't suggest to remove all locale mechanisms, but just to offer one simple, efficient, easy to understand modern 'international locale' for people who don't stick to their national locales and who have serious problems with multiple different locales. Markus -- Markus Kuhn, Computer Science student -=-=- University of Erlangen, Germany Internet: mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de | X.500 entry available --- Wer, wie, was? Wieso, weshalb, warum? Wer nichts fragt bleibt dumm. ---
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!math.fu-berlin.de!ira.uka.de!fauern!uni-erlangen.de!not-for-mail From: unrza3@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat Subject: Re: Let's develop ISO sorting rules Date: 7 Jan 1993 15:21:04 +0100 Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen Message-ID: <1ihe8gEINNh5q@uni-erlangen.de> References: <1i0vnmINN352@rodan.UU.NET> <8494@charon.cwi.nl> <1i2durINN2pj@rodan.UU.NET> <8496@charon.cwi.nl> <C0Cuz5.2wy@flatlin.ka.sub.org> <1ibmdcEINNooe@uni-erlangen.de> <1993Jan5.222627.29561@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> <1iev27EINNmc4@uni-erlangen.de> <maf.726345946@dtek.chalmers.se> Reply-To: mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de Lines: 31