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Article #971Re: POSIX - Caving In Under Its Own Weight (Long)
From: Scott E. Preece
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 00:29
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 00:29
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Submitted-by: preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Scott E. Preece) The problem is that in the current environment saying "Don't make us write test methods" really means "We think it's better to send the standard our a little half-baked than to take the time to remove another round of ambiguities." That *may* be the right answer. It may very well be that more ambiguities will be exposed and interpreted by getting the standard out for people to implement. On the other hand, it also may be that each implementor will guess and interpret when faced with ambiguity, rather than seeking interpretation through inconvenient and possibly slow official channels. What is important about the test method requirement is that it requires the standard writers to translate the specification into another form. There is no structural guarantee that the alternative form will be complete or perfect, but there is a high probability that *some* ambiguities will be exposed. My experience with trying to get a system to meet a standard that was intended to be quite unambiguous (the 88000 version of the SVR4 ABI) is that none of the existing standards is there yet and that forcing the authors to think about them a little longer and in a different form is for the good, though I must also acknowledge that I don't know how my own work group is going to get that work done, either. If we can't keep our people and our companies interested, we're going to be stuck with one unambiguous standard: what runs successfully on NT on the architecture whose name I prefer to leave unuttered... I think that would be for the worse, and I hope I would feel that way even if it were our architecture that were the common reference. -- scott preece motorola/mcg urbana design center 1101 e. university, urbana, il 61801 uucp: uunet!uiucuxc!udc!preece, arpa: preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com phone: 217-384-8589 fax: 217-384-8550 Volume-Number: Volume 30, Number 17
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!not-for-mail From: preece@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Scott E. Preece) Newsgroups: comp.std.unix Subject: Re: POSIX - Caving In Under Its Own Weight (Long) Date: 4 Jan 1993 16:29:05 -0800 Organization: Motorola MCG, Urbana Design Center Lines: 39 Sender: sef@ftp.UU.NET Approved: sef@ftp.uucp (Moderator, Sean Eric Fagan) Message-ID: <1iakohINNbpe@ftp.UU.NET> References: <1halvbINN9kd@ftp.UU.NET> <1hbkbtINNmh8@ftp.UU.NET> <1hdndfINNi52@ftp.UU.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: ftp.uu.net X-Submissions: std-unix@uunet.uu.net