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Here are some nice 50 Mhz. screenmodes, as i promised.
Mode 125 is 1024X640 16 colours 57 Hz (with 50 Mhz VIDC)
Mode 126 is 1280X512 16 colours 60 Hz (with 50 Mhz VIDC)(good for big monitors)



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Matthias Sattler

In article <1992Sep11.193305.20265@rhrk.uni-kl.de> m_sattle@tangram.informatik.uni-kl.de (Matthias Sattler) writes:


>
>I just replaced the 36 MHz quarz on the board of my A5000 by a 60 MHz one. This
>had several results on my A5000.
>1.) The VIDC is clocked faster so I could do 1024x768 60Hz (if your vidc
>can do this)
>2.) Mode 31 is 93 Hz (if your monitor can do this...)
>3.) 800x600 256 Colours isn't possible any more
>4.) There are problems with very low-res modes like mode 0, but I don't
>know why
>5.) The computer gets remarkably faster... >22000 Dhrystones in mode 21, 28 
>    (with CPU 30 MHz) and I don't know why as well.

The 36MHz clock also clocks the memory system. It's divided by 3 inside MEMC
(effectively). So using a 60MHz clock means you are now running your memory
system at 20MHz. Obviously this has a beneficial effect on your machine
speed...if it continues to work.


___________________________________________________________________________
Ashley Stevens, Design Engineer, Acorn Computer       astevens@acorn.co.uk      
Temporarily encamped at ARM Ltd...                    astevens@armltd.co.uk

In article <6578@armltd.uucp> astevens@armltd.co.uk (Ashley Stevens) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.193305.20265@rhrk.uni-kl.de> m_sattle@tangram.informatik.uni-kl.de (Matthias Sattler) writes:
>>
>>I just replaced the 36 MHz quarz on the board of my A5000 by a 60 MHz one. This
>>had several results on my A5000.
>>5.) The computer gets remarkably faster... >22000 Dhrystones in mode 21, 28 
>>    (with CPU 30 MHz) and I don't know why as well.
>
>The 36MHz clock also clocks the memory system. It's divided by 3 inside MEMC
>(effectively). So using a 60MHz clock means you are now running your memory
>system at 20MHz. Obviously this has a beneficial effect on your machine
>speed...if it continues to work.
>
>Ashley Stevens, Design Engineer, Acorn Computer       astevens@acorn.co.uk  

That really is incredible ! Can Matthias please post details of his machine
(RAM, which 2MB upgrade board, etc) ? And how reliably it works, etc.
--
Nick Smith, Churchill College, Cambridge, UK.  %$%  Email: nas20@uk.ac.cam.phx
sig quote wanted - must be under guarantee.   $%$  --- Usual disclaimer. ---

In article <6578@armltd.uucp> astevens@armltd.co.uk (Ashley Stevens) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.193305.20265@rhrk.uni-kl.de> m_sattle@tangram.informatik.uni-kl.de (Matthias Sattler) writes:
>
>
>>
>>I just replaced the 36 MHz quarz on the board of my A5000 by a 60 MHz one. This
>>had several results on my A5000.
>>1.) The VIDC is clocked faster so I could do 1024x768 60Hz (if your vidc
>>can do this)
>>2.) Mode 31 is 93 Hz (if your monitor can do this...)
>>3.) 800x600 256 Colours isn't possible any more
>>4.) There are problems with very low-res modes like mode 0, but I don't
>>know why
>>5.) The computer gets remarkably faster... >22000 Dhrystones in mode 21, 28 
>>    (with CPU 30 MHz) and I don't know why as well.
>
>The 36MHz clock also clocks the memory system. It's divided by 3 inside MEMC
>(effectively). So using a 60MHz clock means you are now running your memory
>system at 20MHz. Obviously this has a beneficial effect on your machine
>speed...if it continues to work.
>
I assume this is why the A3/4xx series have an 8 Mhz bus with a 24 Mhz
VIDC clock. What happens when a VIDC enhancer is used with these machines?
Does the MEMC now divide the higher clock by a higer number? If so then is
this division programmable?

Sorry to ask so many questions but I didn't realise that the memory
speed was related to the VIDC clock and would really like to know
how it all works.

Perhaps it is different on the older machines?

>
>___________________________________________________________________________
>Ashley Stevens, Design Engineer, Acorn Computer       astevens@acorn.co.uk      
>Temporarily encamped at ARM Ltd...                    astevens@armltd.co.uk


-- 
Sim. ----------------------------------------------------------- Simeon Walker,
----------------------------------------- Department of Electrical Engineering,
D.S.Walker@bradford.ac.uk -------------------- University of Bradford, England.

In article <1992Sep15.105031.17458@infodev.cam.ac.uk> nas20@cl.cam.ac.uk
(Nick Smith) writes:

>In article <6578@armltd.uucp> astevens@armltd.co.uk (Ashley Stevens) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep11.193305.20265@rhrk.uni-kl.de>
m_sattle@tangram.informatik.uni-kl.de (Matthias Sattler) writes:
>>>
>>>I just replaced the 36 MHz quarz on the board of my A5000 by a 60 MHz
one. This
>>>had several results on my A5000.
>>>5.) The computer gets remarkably faster... >22000 Dhrystones in mode 21, 28 
>>>    (with CPU 30 MHz) and I don't know why as well.
>>
>>The 36MHz clock also clocks the memory system. It's divided by 3 inside MEMC
>>(effectively). So using a 60MHz clock means you are now running your memory
>>system at 20MHz. Obviously this has a beneficial effect on your machine
>>speed...if it continues to work.
>>
>>Ashley Stevens, Design Engineer, Acorn Computer       astevens@acorn.co.uk  
>
>That really is incredible ! Can Matthias please post details of his machine
>(RAM, which 2MB upgrade board, etc) ? And how reliably it works, etc.


Ok. I now prefer using 50 MHz VIDC clock meaning 16.6667 MHz RAM clock because
my vidc can do 50MHz pixel clock and the machine is only a few percent
slower...
(still >22000 Dhrystones in mode 21, 28).
I havn't modified anything but the quarz for the CPU and for the VIDC (+memory)
and I have no 2MB upgrade board yet(but soon). But I think every board will do
as the slow 70 ns RAMs fitted on the board are fast enough for the 20 MHz RAM
clock.
My A5000 runs perfectly stable with the modification for 6 month now. (with no
heat problems)

But there are a few effects I can't explain:

   - Very low res modes like mode 0 don't work any more,
     but this isn't so important.
   - 800X600 256 colours should work with 50 MHz pixel clock because the
     RAM clock is increased by the same factor but in fact it doesn't.
     (I think this is a bit disappointing to me)

   - And there is another phenomenon: the VIDC can be clocked higher if
     I cool it with cooling spray but the ARM 3 can't????!!!! WHY???????




PS:   The VIDC clock isn't necessarily connected to the system clock.
      For that reason old machines with a VIDC-enhancer don't get faster.
      (no faster RAM clock)

PPS:  Hello ARMLTD and VLSI. I have seen VLSI 386-Chipsets in 0.8 um technology
      BUT THE ARM IS STILL 2 um!!!!!!!! WHY!!!!!!! With that technology a 50MHz
      ARM 3 would be no problem......



Matthias Sattler

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