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In article <4ku3fe$2lfk@rohcs1.uhc.com> "Michael M. Rye" <1726@topcity.mn.org> writes:
> 
>      I was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing
> lockups with AWeb v1.0???  After a short time using it on my
> machine (config shown in signature), it totally locks up
> everything.  I get *no* GURU, no system error window ...

You might check if you have Magic Menu running, turn it off. This is Magic
Menu's fault, not AWeb's because of the way Magic Menu is implemented.
Easiest solution is to turn it off, or set the timeout function in the
Magic Menu preferences to a low value like 3-5 seconds, after which Magic
Menu will release the system when a lock up occurs.


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On 15-Apr-96 18:10:54, Michael M. Rye wrote about AWeb lockup problem, in
comp.sys.amiga.datacomm :
>To anyone that might know,

>     I was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing
>lockups with AWeb v1.0???  After a short time using it on my
>machine (config shown in signature), it totally locks up
>everything.  I get *no* GURU, no system error window ...
>nothing.  Even the mouse quits moving!  When I warm start the
>system, everything boots up fine.  It does not revert to the
>software failure, or any other, GURU before booting.
>Any ideas anyone???  Email reply preferred.  Thanks in
>advance.
>--
Yeah, I too have been having lockups with Aweb 1.0.  Seems like when chip
memory starts filling up, it has a hard time clearing things.  I notice this
especially when trying to flush images.


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aTmosh@amiga.ow.nl (Thomas Tavoly) wrote:
In article <4ku3fe$2lfk@rohcs1.uhc.com> "Michael M. Rye" <1726@topcity.mn.org>
writes:

MR>      I was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing
MR> lockups with AWeb v1.0???  After a short time using it on my
MR> machine (config shown in signature), it totally locks up
MR> everything.  I get *no* GURU, no system error window ...

TT>You might check if you have Magic Menu running, turn it off. This is Magic
TT>Menu's fault, not AWeb's because of the way Magic Menu is implemented.
TT>Easiest solution is to turn it off, or set the timeout function in the
TT>Magic Menu preferences to a low value like 3-5 seconds, after which Magic
TT>Menu will release the system when a lock up occurs.

TT>. Thomas Tavoly + A4000 = aTmosh@amiga.ow.nl  _ .
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I'm not running Magic Menu, but thanks for the offer of help.  Anyone else
have any ideas???   For other things running in the background, I have:

                          CPUBlit
                          MultiCX
                          ScreenMenu
                          Screen Wizard
                          Virus Checker 8.04

Might be a couple more, but I can't remember the stuff that I still
have in my startup-sequence and user-startup.  Oh, yea, I have Executive
v1.3 running, too.

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On 16-Apr-96 04:10:54, Michael M. Rye wrote:

 MMR>      I was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing
 MMR> lockups with AWeb v1.0???  After a short time using it on my
 MMR> machine (config shown in signature), it totally locks up
 MMR> everything.  I get *no* GURU, no system error window ...
 MMR> nothing.  Even the mouse quits moving!  When I warm start the

Yes, I've been getting the occasional lockup recently too. No idea what's
causing it, and as you say, there is no indication of the cause of the
problem.

Don't keep it in email, I'd like to hear what anyone has to say about it
:^)

Regards,

         Mark

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mpa@iig.com.au (Mark P Allen) writes:


>On 16-Apr-96 04:10:54, Michael M. Rye wrote:

> MMR>      I was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing
> MMR> lockups with AWeb v1.0???  After a short time using it on my
> MMR> machine (config shown in signature), it totally locks up
> MMR> everything.  I get *no* GURU, no system error window ...
> MMR> nothing.  Even the mouse quits moving!  When I warm start the

>Yes, I've been getting the occasional lockup recently too. No idea what'

>causing it, and as you say, there is no indication of the cause of the
>problem.

>Don't keep it in email, I'd like to hear what anyone has to say about it
>:^)

=====
I've had a different problem, as I suspect a hardware difficulty
in this A3000.

At times, but mostly whan loading html files, the browser
just reboots the machine.  No lockup, no error messages,
just an instant reboot.

I've been running the A3000 with the lid off and did find
(so far) a bent pin on one of the chip ram ICs (fixed that)
and the Agnus IC clicked when pushed on with both thumbs,
(maybe it was not properly socketed) and
I am running a small fan blowing on the chip ram ICs
(just in case).

Too many people run AWeb without problems.  Although I did
download the AWeb 1.1 archive from Aminet today, so 
there must have been something which needed fixing .

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In article <4l0lk5$k18@nyx10.cs.du.edu>,
	rdavis@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Robert Davis) writes:
>mpa@iig.com.au (Mark P Allen) writes:
>>On 16-Apr-96 04:10:54, Michael M. Rye wrote:
>
>> MMR>      I was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing
>> MMR> lockups with AWeb v1.0???  After a short time using it on my
>> MMR> machine (config shown in signature), it totally locks up
>> MMR> everything.  I get *no* GURU, no system error window ...
>> MMR> nothing.  Even the mouse quits moving!  When I warm start the
>
>>Yes, I've been getting the occasional lockup recently too. No idea what'
>>causing it, and as you say, there is no indication of the cause of the
>>problem.
>
>At times, but mostly whan loading html files, the browser
>just reboots the machine.  No lockup, no error messages,
>just an instant reboot.

I could guess either bad images which aren't supported by the
datatypes or simply running out of chip mem...

>Too many people run AWeb without problems.  Although I did
>download the AWeb 1.1 archive from Aminet today, so 
>there must have been something which needed fixing .

Well, I ran 1.0 quite quite fine on my A3000, but it sure had little
quirks (enforcing some styles for certain font types and minor visual
disharmonies with Urouhack, broken 68000 support (didn't affect me ;))
etc.) which seem to be now fixed in 1.1.

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mpa@iig.com.au (Mark P Allen) wrote:
>On 16-Apr-96 04:10:54, Michael M. Rye wrote:

 MMR>      I was wondering if anyone else has been experiencing
 MMR> lockups with AWeb v1.0???  After a short time using it on my
 MMR> machine (config shown in signature), it totally locks up
 MMR> everything.  I get *no* GURU, no system error window ...
 MMR> nothing.  Even the mouse quits moving!  When I warm start the

MA>Yes, I've been getting the occasional lockup recently too. No idea what's
MA>causing it, and as you say, there is no indication of the cause of the
MA>problem.

MA>Don't keep it in email, I'd like to hear what anyone has to say about it
MA> :^)

MA>Regards,

MA>         Mark
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If I get an email response that works to fix the problem, I will be sure
to post it here.  Catcha later!

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In article <4l08nf$1gl2@rohcs1.uhc.com> "Michael M. Rye" <1726@topcity.mn.org> writes:
> 
>                           CPUBlit

No speedups whatsoever here, only another hack that could cause problems.
Remove it.

>                           MultiCX

I use MCP personally, a very fine program indeed, made my A4000 about 10%
faster because I removed a _lot_ of slower hacks :) Could very well be the
source of your problems too.

>                           ScreenMenu
>                           Screen Wizard

Again possible sources of problems. Try without.

>                           Virus Checker 8.04

This runs fine here, I don't think it's the wrongdoer.

> Might be a couple more, but I can't remember the stuff that I still
> have in my startup-sequence and user-startup.  Oh, yea, I have Executive
> v1.3 running, too.

Now Executive can be a pain in the ass if set up improperly. I have only
gotten it to work with regular crashes and have decided to abandon it until
a new version comes out. Of course I could have made a setup mistake, but
nevertheless.

The first thing to do if you experience frequent problems with a new
program is to find out whether the program itself or something else causes
trouble. Try cleaning out your startup-sequence and user-startup.


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In article <4l0lk5$k18@nyx10.cs.du.edu> rdavis@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Robert Davis) writes:
> 
> Too many people run AWeb without problems.

Are you saying that number should be less? ;^)

> Although I did
> download the AWeb 1.1 archive from Aminet today, so 
> there must have been something which needed fixing .

Of course, no program is ever perfect. I must mention though that there are
some new features as well. Check out the documentation.


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In article <4l08nf$1gl2@rohcs1.uhc.com>, "Michael M. Rye" wrote:

:I'm not running Magic Menu, but thanks for the offer of help.  Anyone else
:have any ideas???   For other things running in the background, I have:
:
:                          CPUBlit
:                          MultiCX
My $0.02 worth - does     ^^^^^^^^  include a setting for an animated 
busy pointer?  Is it active?  I just tested 1.1 and it still locks up the 
system when accessing an Aweb popup menu while running the animated busy 
pointer program 'sleeping-pointer cute'.  Again - its only $0.02 worth.  

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bruce@rpl.regina.sk.ca (Bruce Welch) wrote:
>In article <4l08nf$1gl2@rohcs1.uhc.com>, "Michael M. Rye" wrote:

MR:I'm not running Magic Menu, but thanks for the offer of help.  Anyone else
MR:have any ideas???   For other things running in the background, I have:
MR:
MR:                          CPUBlit
MR:                          MultiCX

BW>My $0.02 worth - does     ^^^^^^^^  include a setting for an animated
BW>busy pointer?  Is it active?  I just tested 1.1 and it still locks up the
BW>system when accessing an Aweb popup menu while running the animated busy
BW>pointer program 'sleeping-pointer cute'.  Again - its only $0.02 worth.
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No, MultiCX does not have a provision for animated pointers.  I consider those
annoying anyway, so I probably wouldn't even have it turned on.  I have not
been able to test AWeb 1.1 yet, cause I've been so busy with work.  But, over
the weekend I'm going to try to download, install and try it out.  If it still
happens (the lock-up), I'm going to start removing automatically loaded 
programs from my system one by one and see if the problem clears up.  That's
going to take forever and a day, 'cause I have a lot of stuff that gets loaded,
but it seems like it's going to be the only way I'm gonna figure this out.
Unless, of course, anyone else has more suggestions???

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Hi Thomas Tavoly,
On 18-apr-96 04:48:50 you wrote about Re: AWeb lockup problem.

>>                           CPUBlit
 TT> No speedups whatsoever here, only another hack that could cause problems.
 TT> Remove it.

No problems here... it works fine.

>>                           MultiCX
 TT> I use MCP personally, a very fine program indeed, made my A4000 about 10%
 TT> faster because I removed a _lot_ of slower hacks :) Could very well be the
 TT> source of your problems too.

I use both... again no probs

>>                           ScreenMenu

Don't use this one anymore (it's in MCP :.)

>>                           Screen Wizard
 TT> Again possible sources of problems. Try without.

Nope, work perfectly here. I even have AWeb on a screen that ScreenWizard
opened.

>>                           Virus Checker 8.04
 TT> This runs fine here, I don't think it's the wrongdoer.

This one crashes my system when run... not using it anymore.

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