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Info-Atari16 Digest   Thursday, March  5, 1987   Volume 87 : Issue 113

This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield

Today's Topics:

                          "Setting the date"
                       Resetting the aux. port
                     April 1987 ANTIC TOC for ST
                 Re: An external RAM disk for the ST
                    Re: Upgrading a 1040 to 4 Megs
                        Re: How Much Free RAM?
                 Re: Two questions on ST add-{o|i}ns
              Re: r.e. Simons comments of 20 Feb '87...
                             Re: C Comps.
    Re: The future of the ST line of computers (and something NEW)
        Re: new moderated newsgroup(s)(Really lack of support)
               Re: Problems with Fattrib on a directory
                     Re: Buying an Atari computer

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Date: Wed, 4 Mar 87 14:33:25 +0100
From: mcvax!inria!inria.inria.fr!poirot@seismo.CSS.GOV (Didier Poirot -- SPIT)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu
Subject: "Setting the date"


    A few weeks ago, i wrote a little program (using ALCYON C) to set the
date correctly at system reboot (who said original ??).  I use Tsetdate() and
Ikbdw() routines to set the date correctly in the 2 system clocks (i need  the
keyboard clock to be set to display it in the upper right corner of the screen)


    No problem to make it work correctly, but (there's always  a but)
my program always ask me for the date (and time) even after a RESET. However
i think the date is still correct in the keyboard (just frozen at reset).

    So i decided to modify it, to read the keyboard clock and if  this one
seems to be ok, set it as system date. So, I used Ikbdw() routine to read it
( command $1C) but all i got is 0 !

      Am i right to say the date is still correct after a reset ?
    As someone got the same problem ?


Disclaimer: Opinions expressed above do not necesseraly reflect those
        of my Employer. I have no affiliations with any named company .

===============================================================================

Didier POIROT                        D. Poirot

mail: ...!seismo!mcvax!inria!poirot            INRIA
                            Domaine de Voluceau
                            B.P 105

                            78153 LE CHESNAY CEDEX

                            FRANCE

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Date: 5 Mar 87 00:20:55 GMT
From: decvax!minow@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Martin Minow)
Subject: Resetting the aux. port
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

The attached subroutine has been in use for a few days without
problems (Your mileage may vary).  It resets the XOFF status
flags in the IOREC and initializes the output (Atari->Host) buffer
pointers.  It assembles under the Mark Williams assembler.

Martin Minow
decvax!minow

/
/ Reset the Aux rs232 port.  Usage:
/    char    *rs232_iorec = Iorec(0);    /* Do this first    */
/
/    if (rs232_reset())
/        Cauxout(0x11);            /* send an XOFF        */
/
/ This subroutine was written by Martin Minow, Arlington MA
/ and is in the public domain.
/
    .shrd                / Public data
    .globl    rs232_iorec_        / -> aux io record. see below
    .shri                / Public instructions
    .globl    rs232_reset_

rs232_reset_:
    move.l    d2,-(sp)        / Save a scratch register
    clr.l    -(sp)            / Super(0L) switches to super mode
    move.w    $0x20,-(sp)        / Super opcode
    trap    $1            / Call TOS
    addq.l    $6,sp            / Clear stack
    move.l    d0,-(sp)        / Save old stack for now.
/
/ If you don't already have the iorec as a readily-available global,
/ uncomment the following code (which is, of course, untested)
/
/    clr.w    -(sp)            / Aux port is device zero
/    move.w    $14,-(sp)        / Iorec
/    trap    $14            / Xbios(14)
/    addq.l    $4,sp            / Clear stack
/ End of "get iorec" code. We already have this information:
    movea    rs232_iorec_,a0        / a0 -> I/O record
    move    sr,-(sp)        / Save cpu status
    ori    $0x700,sr        / Disable interrupts
    clr.l    20(a0)            / Clear output head, tail
    clr.l    d2            / Clear result
    or.b    30(a0),d2        / Get old rcv xoff state
    clr.w    30(a0)            / Cancel rcv, xmt xoff states
    move    (sp)+,sr        / enable interrupts
    move.w    $0x20,-(sp)        / Super -- old_stack is still at (sp)
    trap    $1            / Exit super mode
    addq    $6,sp            / Clean junk from stack
    move.l    d2,d0            / Get result
    move.l    (sp)+,d2        / Restore d2
    rts                / exit routine

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Date: 4 Mar 87 18:52:20 GMT
From: ihnp4!ihuxi!store2@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Wilcox)
Subject: April 1987 ANTIC TOC for ST
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

    *****************[Ignore header path]*******************

Below is the portion of the table of contents of the April issue
of ANTIC magazine that I think will be of interest to ST owners.
The complete TOC is available in comp.sys.atari.8bit if you are
interested.     -Kit-

    ********************************************************



            MONTH 1987 ANTIC TOC
            Theme: Tax Spreadsheet

page    article

6    I/O BOARD
        Letters from Readers.

    ***********BEGIN THE ST RESOURCE SECTION**********

56    PATHWAYS UNCOVERED
        Proper file handling on your ST.
61    ST PRODUCT NEWS AND REVIEWS
        Software
          The Pinball Factory (Michtron)
          Silent Service (MicroProse Software)
          Black Cauldron (Sierra On-Line, Inc)
          Textpro (Abacus Software)
          Universe II (Omnitrend Software)
        New Products (description only)
          Trivia Challenge (Michtron)
          Backup! (Michtron)
          HiSoft BASIC Compiler (HiSoft)
          DevpacST (HiSoft)
          Saved! (HiSoft)
          Accounts (Execon Limited)
          Invoicing/Order Processing (Execon Limited)
          Inventory Control System (Execon Limited)
          Business Starter Kit templates (Quickview Systems)
          Home Starter Kit templates (Quickview Systems)
          Mouse to Joystick converter (State of the Arts Electronics)
          Quizam (Electronic Arts)
          Dollars and Sense (Monogram)
          Space Quest (Sierra On-Line Inc)
          LaserType (Softlab)
          Fore*Star (Crystal Software)
          PayDay (Crystal Software)
          KISS (QMS)
          Big KISS (QMS)
          Big KISS II (QMS)
          Smartwriter 80+ (QMS)
          Drafix 1 (Foresight Resources Corp)
          Fastcom (Atari Corp)
          Inagem Agenda+ (Inagem Technologies Inc)
          Micro-Time ST (Micro-Time Electronics)
68    TYPESETTER ELITE
        A review of this product from XLEnt Software.

    ***********END THE ST RESOURCE SECTION************

73    SOFTWARE LIBRARY
        This section contains all the program listings for the
        articles in this issue.

Coming next month: 5th Anniversary Issue containing: 2nd annual ANTIC
           Awards, Rogue for the 8-bit computer, Type-In Hall
           of Fame, Wild Inventions--Build 'em for pennies.

Comments: Computer Mail Order is now advertising the 800XL for $63.99.
      Thanks to all who sent congratulations to me on the birth of
      my new daughter, Sarah Marie Kimes.  Until next month...

                        Kit Kimes
                        AT&T-ISL
                        1100 E. Warrenville Rd.
                        Naperville, IL 60566
                        ...!ihnp4!iwvae!kimes

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Date: 4 Mar 87 21:33:32 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: An external RAM disk for the ST
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

>Atari MS-DOS emulator cancelled in light of the Atari PC...
>

  Nope.  We're going ahead with it, and I'll post more information as soon
as I have any.

--alex @ Atari

BIX: alexl.        GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS       AtariCorp: 408-745-2160

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Date: 4 Mar 87 22:42:43 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: Upgrading a 1040 to 4 Megs
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

>I hope the 32 bit box will plug in the back of my ST...

  Yep, that's how it's going to be.  The ST is going to be a superfast,
smart terminal to the 68020 box.

--alex @ Atari

BIX: alexl.     GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS     ATariCorp: 408-745-2006

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Date: 4 Mar 87 21:43:51 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: How Much Free RAM?
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <6337@mhuxu.UUCP>, cbz@mhuxu.UUCP says:
>
> Can someone tell me how much of a 520STs RAM is actually allocated for the
> user?  I have a Free RAM checker Desk Accessory that tells me its something
> like 377k.  Is that correct?
>
> Craig Ziemer at AT&T-BL

  Depends on a number of things, like how many desk acc's you load and whether
or not you've got TOS in ROM.  377K sounds to me like you're loading the
control panel and set printer accs as well as the free ram acc.  Is this
so?

--alex @ Atari

BIX: alexl.      GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS     Atari Corp: 408-745-2160

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Date: 4 Mar 87 21:48:10 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: Two questions on ST add-{o|i}ns
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

> a) a company called Terrific advertises a clock chip which mounts underneath
>    some chip on the motherboard. I remember the warning from Neil Harris on

  I've heard good things about them, but have not used it myself.  I have a
board that goes into the chip socket on the keyboard, and uses two rechargeable
nickelcad batteries, with a little program in the auto folder to read the
clock at boot time.  I think it's called ST-Time, and I like it.

> b) I'm also considering buying a hard disk. The two alternatives seem to be
>    the Atari SH204 and the Supra 30Meg drive...

I use an SH204 myself, and like it very much.  I've also heard good things
about the Supra.

--alex @ Atari

BIX: alexl.      GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS         Atari Corp: 408-745-2160

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Date: 4 Mar 87 21:18:25 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: r.e. Simons comments of 20 Feb '87...
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

>
>   Doesn't -anyone- at Atari read these messages?
>   How can we get them to listen??
>   Don't they care that users and developers are starting to get angry?
>
>   Any ideas??

  I'm here and I'm listening, and will do all I can to help.  The technical
books are on the way--but they are being written by an out of house writing
group, and we have no control over when they get done.  For those who remember
the very beginnings of the old Atari, most of us went around for the first
two years, desperately trying to get ahold of the technical reference notes--
it wasn't until the 800 had been out a while (read a couple of years) before
the docs started becoming available.

  If you have technical questions about the machine, a language, etc., call
our Tech Support Linesa 408-745-2004, 2005, or 2006.  I promise you'll get
an answer to your question (and if my people or I don't know the answer,
we'll find out).  We're a lot smaller than the old Atari was, but we're
sincerely trying to do what you want.  Thanks!

--alex leavens (Technical Support Manager @Atari)

BIX: alexl.       GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS

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Date: 4 Mar 87 21:39:06 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: C Comps.
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <870225021027.057930@RADC-MULTICS.ARPA>, Peck@RADC-MULTICS.ARPA
(Rodney) says:
>
>
>   I'm REALLY fed up with trying to configure my Alcyon C compiler to run
> in a ram disk neatly.  I'm using microGnu Emacs, and the Alcyon C stuff,
> and I want to have the modules used in compling in another dir.  I can
> do all this, but the programs that actually compile things look in the
> default dir for the modules so I have to go and modify the batch files
> to give explicit pathnames for each program and file.  Unfortunately,
> link doesn't take pathnames.  Drat.

  You should check out Beckemeyer's C-Shell (Beckemeyer Development Tools),
which is a nice C-Shell style command line interpreter that supports scripts,
path environments (path = . C:\source c:\bin c:\lib, etc.)
and a bunch of other stuff.  BDT is in Berkeley, CA.

--alex @ Atari

BIX: alexl.      GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS         Atari: 408-745-2160

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Date: 4 Mar 87 21:28:13 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: The future of the ST line of computers (and something NEW)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

>
> This one is directed to the folks at Atari: is the SM125 going to replace the
> SM124, or is it the "multi-sync" monitor we've heard about?

  We have not, to my knowledge, replaced the SM124, nor are we going to do
so.  I know that the SM125 was made available in Europe, but if the picutre
quality is not good, they should have it adjusted by their dealer, as it
is apparently the same hardware in a different box.

>
>>     -There have been no fundamental advances in the capabilities
>>      of the ST series over the last one and a half year, in fact Atari
>>      has changed  to a major manufacturer of vaporware...
>
> Again, this one is for Atari: why can't one of you guys give us a definitive
> answer about the blitter & rom upgrades?  The fact that you won't speak up on
> this issue doesn't do much for our (existing ST owners) confidence in Atari.
> And, we know you _do_ read these questions - you only seem to answer the
> less painful ones (less painful, in the sense that they won't hurt your
> business as much).

  The blitter and ROMS are _done_.  Our problem is with our supplier, who
cannot seem to produce the things in any reasonable quantity (right now,
we're averaging 1 or 2 chips _per wafer_.  Not good.)  Needless to say,
we are trying to second source this, but redoing the chip stuff for a
different manufacturer is non-trivial.  I should have some more news in
a couple of weeks.

--alex @ Atari

BIX: alexl.      GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS

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Date: 4 Mar 87 22:00:29 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: new moderated newsgroup(s)(Really lack of support)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

in article <9650@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU>, appelbau@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Marc L.
 Appelbaum) says:
> Cc: appelbau
>

> So when are we going to see some real support for the 8-bits???

I'm now doing support for the 8-bits on GEnie as well.  Took me a little
while....  (Had to wade through like 5 zillion messages... <grin>)

--alex @ Atari

BIX: alexl.      GEnie: ALEXLEAVENS    AtariCorp: 408-745-2006

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Date: 4 Mar 87 20:26:15 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: Problems with Fattrib on a directory
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

> I have been using 'Fattrib' gemdos function to read the attributes of a
> directory but all it returns is 0 without bit 0x10 set to indicate that
> it is a directory.

I just spoke with one of the programmers, and apparently you can't read
the directory bit using Fattrib.  This is because Fattrib has the possibility
of changing the values for this attribute bit, and since doing so would
roach the system (you don't want to set a non-directory file to a directory,
and vice-versa), the call just doesn't return that info.  The programmer
suggested using Fsfirst, which also returns the attrib info, but in a read-only
fashion.

--alex (The Other One)

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Date: 4 Mar 87 21:04:25 GMT
From: imagen!atari!leavens@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Alex Leavens)
Subject: Re: Buying an Atari computer
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

> Is Atari's support adequate? Well, Apple doesn't (to my knowledge) doesn't
> run a public-access BBS (IBM does, though the number is a closely guarded
> secret, apparently). When I used to be a member of the old fa.info-mac, I
> don't remember anybody from Apple ever contributing anything (in fact,
> Apple's net address was a matter of considerable speculation). Things could
> be a lot better, but they could also be a lot worse.

We do, in fact, run a BBS--it has five lines, and can be reached at:
  408-745-5308
          5970
          2642
          4458
          5664

The lines cascade, so if you just want to get on, dial any number.
--alex (@Atari)

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