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Subject:      Info-Atari16 Digest V87 #145
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Info-Atari16 Digest   Friday, March 27, 1987   Volume 87 : Issue 145

This weeks Editor: Bill Westfield

Today's Topics:

           Re: How big is displayed screen on Atare SM124?
                           Alex's Icons...
                    Flakey errors with Uniterm17a.
                      really fast laser printers
                              VBI Info?
                    Re: Emacs 3.8b bugs on the way
                  Extension boards for the Mega-STs?
                  Re: Flakey errors with Uniterm17a.
                  Extension boards for the Mega-STs?
                               Twister
                   LaserPrinter Memory Requirements
                     status of Batteries Included
                      Re: UniTerm V1.7a Problems
                         UniTerm Info Request
                 uEmacs38b fixes for ATARI ST - (nf)
                           NITE feature???

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Date: 22 Mar 87 13:44:38 GMT
From: kodak!ektools!bruce@CS.ROCHESTER.EDU  (Bruce D. Nelson )
Subject: Re: How big is displayed screen on Atare SM124?
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

In article <162@odyssey.UUCP> jcs@odyssey.UUCP (j.c.schwebel) writes:
>I just bought an Atari SM124 monochrome monitor for the 1040 ST
>and am a little disappointed by the size of the displayed screen area.
> .... are there adjustment controls inside the box?

The reason given by Atari for the small image size is to maintain linearity
of the screen image. Several articles have been published giving instructions
on how to enlarge the image. On my screen, the very bottom line has a
definite curve, but the larger image is nice. I guess it comes down to the
choice between perfectly square pixels or less eyestrain.


Bruce D. Nelson, Sr. Appl. Analyst: Software Maintenance, Production Systems
EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY, 901 Elmgrove Rd., Rochester, NY 14650, 716 726-7890
UUCP:   {allegra, seismo}!rochester!kodak!ektools!bruce
ARPA:   kodak!ektools!bruce@rochester.ARPA

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Date:     Fri, 20 Mar 87  23:38:23 EST
From:     Flash%UMASS.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Subject:  Alex's Icons...
To:       Info-Atari16@SU-SCORE.ARPA

Anyone else out there have had problems with the ICONLOADER that came
in the spring issue of start?

I got hooked on it, drew up some neat icons. (3.5 floppy, little
campfire for trash, and so on...) and have been using it since.

BUT! I realized, that over the last couple of days, some programs have
mysteriously bombed. I didn't give them much thought. Well, tonight
I tried good ole K-Switch. And guess what? Both FLASH and UNITERM will
crash into several bombs and lock up the system IF you have custom
icons loaded. (I removed LOADICON alone, and all fixed!)

Alex, any idea why this happens? I was able to nail down the problem
by booting only with K-switch and LOADICON and then without LOADICON
alone.

Any chance of getting this fixed? Or is this, being software is a magazine,
no_upgrade_avail stuff?

Now that I got hooked on my new nifty icons, I got to get rid of them,
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

Oh well, that is life.

Rick Flashman

1040 N. Pleasant Street, #381, Amherst, MA  01002. (413) 549-0173
Flash@UMASS.BITNET   -or-    Flash%UMASS.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU
                   R-FLASHMAN on GEnie

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Date: 22 Mar 87 23:29:10 GMT
From: nexus.dec.com!morgan@decwrl.dec.com  (Organized religion? Just say NO!)
Subject: Flakey errors with Uniterm17a.
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu


    I love Uniterm17a but...

    I have been experiencing a problem with Uniterm17a.  With noisy
    phone lines I get errors that abort x-modem transfers.

    Usually you should get a packet retry, but I'm getting sender errors
    and false EOT messages that destroy the integrity of the d/l load.

    Any ideas?  Should I just use Kermit or Y-modem under Uniterm17a?

    I'm using a Hayes compatible modem that has performed well for a year
    and still looks good. I don't think there are any switches that need
    to be changed in the modem for Uniterm so I have to believe that the
    copy of Uniterm is somehow glitched or I am doing something else wrong.

    Anyone else had this problem with Uniterm17a??

      Mikie?

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Date:  Sun, 22 Mar 87 20:31 EST
From:  Rodney <Peck@RADC-MULTICS.ARPA>
Subject:  really fast laser printers
To:  info-atari16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

  At rensselaer polytechnic institute, they have a Xerox 8700
laserprinter which is now the default printer for the multi-processor
IBM machine that is the main computer on campus.
  This printer I believe does at LEAST 30 ppm (printed on both sides).
Thats 30 pieces of paper printed front and back coming out of the
machine in a minute.  this is a BIG laser printer though.  It's not
going to fit in your office next to your ST...sorry.
  (I could be wrong about the speed, but if I remember correctly, it
throws at least 1 page every 2 seconds out.  probably 2 pages every 2
seconds...)
  (apple laserwriters were depressingly slow as far as I was concerned,
'cause this Xerox was the first laser printer I ever saw.)

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Date:     Sun, 22 Mar 87 21:03 EST
From:     Matt Kimmel <KIMMEL%ecs.umass.edu@RELAY.CS.NET>
To:       Info-Atari16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU
Subject:  VBI Info?
X-VMS-To: CSNET%"Info-Atari16@Score.Stanford.edu"

Where can I find information about using the VBI from C?  I tried the
VBI handler that came over the network a while ago, but it didn't work.
Where can I find generic or C-specific (or even Pascal or Modula-2-specific)
information about using the VBI?  Other than the developer's documentation,
of course; I don't have $300 lying around (Why can't they release the
developer's docs seperately?  It would make them a lot of money!)

Thanks!

-Matt Kimmel,

KIMMEL@UMAECS.BITNET
KIMMEL%UMAECS.BITNET@wiscvm.ARPA
KIMMEL@ECS.UMASS.EDU

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Date: 22 Mar 87 08:13:58 GMT
From: mnetor!utzoo!utgpu!water!watnot!watrose!jafischer@seismo.css.gov
Subject: Re: Emacs 3.8b bugs on the way
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

    Regarding the posting of Emacs 3.8b... version 3.8f is up on
Compuserve.  Has anyone downloaded it?
--
        - Jonathan Fischer   (jafischer@watrose.UUCP)
            or ...watmath!watrose!jafischer

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Date: 23 MAR 87 11:20-N
From: ZRFA1%DS0RUS51.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
To: INFO-ATARI16 @ SU-SCORE.ARPA
Subject:Extension boards for the Mega-STs?

I am sorry, if this message is the second time on the list.
I have allready sent it some time ago, bet never seen it on
the digests we get on bitnet sites.

In an interview with a german magazine Shiraz Shivij said
that Atari has finished the development of a board with the
68881 on it. Does somebody (Neil) know when this board will
be available, and which languages are going to support it.
In german Atari advertisements the board is allready cited.

In the same interview Shiraz Shivij said that they have a
LAN-board for lokal area networking in a Vax environement.
Does somebody know what software is used (TCP/IP, Decnet,...)?

Is it possible to use more than one board in one machine?
Are there any more boards planned?

                                Ulrich Lang (ZRFA1@DS0RUS1I)

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Date: 23 Mar 87 05:46:41 GMT
From: kodak!ektools!bruce@CS.ROCHESTER.EDU  (Bruce D. Nelson )
Subject: Re: Flakey errors with Uniterm17a.
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

I _finally_ got a copy of Uniterm 1.7a and have experienced 2 problems so far...
1) Oftentimes, as soon as the remote modem answers, Uniterm exits back to the
desktop.
2) Ymodem times out after the host has sent the filename block.
Anyone else seen these problems?

Bruce D. Nelson, Sr. Appl. Analyst: Software Maintenance, Production Systems
EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY, 901 Elmgrove Rd., Rochester, NY 14650, 716 726-7890
UUCP:   {allegra, seismo}!rochester!kodak!ektools!bruce
ARPA:   kodak!ektools!bruce@rochester.ARPA

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Date: 23 Mar 87 10:57:52 GMT
From: DS0RUS51.BITNET!ZRFA1@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
Subject: Extension boards for the Mega-STs?
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

I am sorry, if this message is the second time on the list.
I have allready sent it some time ago, bet never seen it on
the digests we get on bitnet sites.

In an interview with a german magazine Shiraz Shivij said
that Atari has finished the development of a board with the
68881 on it. Does somebody (Neil) know when this board will
be available, and which languages are going to support it.
In german Atari advertisements the board is allready cited.

In the same interview Shiraz Shivij said that they have a
LAN-board for lokal area networking in a Vax environement.
Does somebody know what software is used (TCP/IP, Decnet,...)?

Is it possible to use more than one board in one machine?
Are there any more boards planned?

                                Ulrich Lang (ZRFA1@DS0RUS1I)

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 87 09:53 EST
From: Chris Jones <clj@SAPSUCKER.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>
Subject: Twister
To: Info-Atari16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

>  From: ihnp4!inuxc!iuvax!franco@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
>
>                 I am not sure why the authors of twister set their formatter
>  to 400k when 410k can easily be achieved.  The following hacks to the
>  executable will change twister to a 410k twister:
>
>  The single occurrence of HEX 0320 should be changed to 0334
>  The single occurrence of HEX 0640 should be changed to 0668
>  The single occurrence of HEX 0050 should be changed to 0052  (in third
 sector)

I'd feel better about doing this if some explanation were included about what
this is supposed to accomplish.  Otherwise, I can't tell if this is something on
the order of "For a real high-energy drink, substitute naptholene for the orange
juice."

(I guess from looking at the numbers that this causes cylinders 80 and 81 to be
used, but I'd rather hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak).

I also have not noticed a measurable speedup after formatting a DS disk with
 twister.
I've been reading and writing VIP Professional workspace files which are about
 100K bytes
long, and I do have reboot.prg in the auto folder to disable write verification.
  I
haven't done enough experiments to say for certain that there is no speedup,
 however.

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Date: 23 Mar 87 14:07:55 GMT
From: appelbau@topaz.rutgers.edu  (Marc L. Appelbaum)
Subject: LaserPrinter Memory Requirements
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

Here is a copy of a message I recieved from Art Morgan:

Memo           Laser Printer Image Memory Requirements

Date           22 March 1987

>From           Art Morgan
               Project Gutenberg
               Atari Corporation

To             Marc Appelbaum




     The horse's mouth that you refer to may actually  be  a
horse's  ass   :^).   I  believe the confusion stems from my
diagram of the Atari ST  Desktop  Publishing  System,  which
shows the Atari MEGA ST4 (4 meg) as the image-processing hub
of an IDEAL Atari desktop system.

     In reality the memory  requirements  of  a  letter-size
page  image is 954000 bytes, well under 1 meg.  Here are the
memory requirements for the paper  types  supported  by  the
Atari SLM Laser Printer:

Paper           Dimensions                      Memory

 LETTER          2400 dots by 3180 lines         954000 bytes
 LEGAL           2400 dots by 4080 lines         1224000 bytes
 A4              2336 dots by 3386 lines         988712 bytes
 B5              2016 dots by 2914 lines         734328 bytes


     The above requirements do not apply  to  Dave  Staugas'
printer emulator, which uses a character generator "banding"
technique requiring around  32  Kbytes  of  effective  image
memory.   That's why Dave's emulator can run on an Atari 520
or 1040 ST system.

     I hope this clears the confusion.   If  you  feel  like
posting  a  correction  to  the  net using this information,
please feel free to do so.



Best regards,

Art Morgan
Project Gutenberg
Atari Corporation



                       March 22, 1987

I think this should clear up all the confusion about the memory needed
for the Laser Printer.  I would also like to thank Art once more.
--
 Marc L. Appelbaum                 "If life is a game of chess
 Arpa:appelbau@topaz.rutgers.edu                 and you and I are pawns
 Uucp:rutgers!topaz!appelbau                     what happens when we get to
 GEnie: M.APPELBAUM                         the other side of the board?"

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 87 13:27 EST
From: Chris Jones <clj@SAPSUCKER.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>
Subject: status of Batteries Included
To: Info-Atari16@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU

I ordered Degas Elite from Computer Creations Inc. of Centerville, OH.
Five days later (last Saturday) I got a letter saying that "Batteries
Included has filed for bankruptcy.  Degas Elite is therefore not available
at this time."  I called several other mail-order places, and, while no
one else used the word "bankruptcy", none of them have Degas Elite, and
they are not receiving shipments from Batteries Included.  (I don't recall
who else I called, except that Software Discounters of America was one
of them).  It seems that the reports of B.I.'s death are not a total
fabrication, although I continue to hope the truth is a little less
drastic.

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 87 22:14:41 GMT
To: info-atari16@su-score.ARPA
From: K538915%CZHRZU1A.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu
Return-Receipt-To: K538915@CZHRZU1A.BITNET
Subject: Re: UniTerm V1.7a Problems

Try to get your hands on a copy of 1.7b (my motto: 'Produce new versions
quicker than people find bugs' :-))....the current version is something
like 1.7b 014 (may change with time :-)), I'll be sending a copy of this
to the server in Houston a.s.a.p. (for all those which have been wanting
mouse control of cursor, from edit nr. 11 UniTerm has it). Sorry if there
are problems with XModem and YModem, but its rather hard to find a BAD
line here + a server with XModem.

                                 Simon
                                 K538915@CZHRZU1A.BITNET

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Date: 23 Mar 87 20:10:01 GMT
From: princeton!phoenix!pupthy!wrs@RUTGERS.EDU  (William R. Somsky)
Subject: UniTerm Info Request
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

I find myself in need of a more elaborate terminal emulator than I have
currently been using.  UniTerm would seem to fill my needs.  However,

1 - I have a copy of UniTerm 1.6g.  Is this the latest version?  If not,
    where can I obtain the latest (compiled) version?

2 - The only documentation I have is for UniTerm 1.4  (Way out of date)
    Is there complete documentation for the latest UniTerm version?  Again,
    where can I obtain this?  (Preferrably formatted, I don't have proff)

Please answer by Email.  Don't send UniTerm or its docs, but let me know if
and where they are available.  I'll then get them from the closest location.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
William R. Somsky                          Physics Dept ; Princeton Univ
wrs@pupthy.PRINCETON.EDU                 PO Box 708 ; Princeton NJ 08544

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Date: 22 Mar 87 17:04:00 GMT
From: mcvax!unido!tub!csch@seismo.css.gov
Subject: uEmacs38b fixes for ATARI ST - (nf)
To: info-atari16@score.stanford.edu

A few day ago I posted the following message to comp.emacs. I wasn't getting
any answer til now ... So -  I'm posting it here again:
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Hello all NETlanders listening to that newsgroup,

My friend Jochen & me have been working on the ATARI-ST & IBM-AT versions
of uEmacs38b. We've done a lot more stuff, than the orig. ones.
i.e. ALL shell-escapes (^XC, ^X!, ^X@, ^X#) now work properly (with either
Beckemeyer-C-shell & Mark-Williams-C-shell ...) and much more enhancements
took place ...

So I've been writing to the author (lawrence@duncan) to ask him how to
get these fixes (and believe me, THERE WERE LOTS OF REAL BUGS ...)
permanently involved into the uEmacs-series. He wasn't answering me till
now, so perhaps someone else in this newsgroup will help me doing this...

Kindest regards

Clemens Schrimpe

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 87 18:49:06 CST
From: moore@ncsc.ARPA (Moore)
To: info-atari16@su-score.ARPA
Subject: NITE feature???

Has anyone noticed if NITE.PRG (Moshe Braner, I _think_) causes the disk access
light on floppy drives to stay on?  This evening I left a diskcopy going, and
when I came back the light was still on and the copy was (over)done.  I've
also noticed this with Simon Poole's Uniterm when I've walked away from a large
file download.

Useful comments are appreciated.

Jim
Moore@NCSC.arpa

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