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Date: 22 Sep 88 02:28:09 GMT
From: bw0i+@andrew.cmu.edu  (Bryan Wu)
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Subject: Networking, ST's and Spectre 128
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Note: I hoped to send this to David Small, but couldn't e-mail to him..

I don't know if it is even possible, but since you are making a new cartridge
for the 128k ROMs, will you also be putting in AppleTalk network port in?
Perhaps by putting in the Zilog chip onto the cart itself (since the chip can
be bought by anyone) you would be able to get networking into the Atari series
via AppleTalk.  Perhaps making the Zilog chip available to the ST via. cart
slot and bypassing the Mac ROMs you could also introduce high speed nets to the
ST w/o using the Mac part of the cartridge? .. This way you could put a high
speed port on the Spectre 128 cart itself and wouldnt have to use the Atari's
hardware ports (as they are supposed to be slow compared to the AppleTalk
ports) for networking.


One of the big reasons I'm asking this is because I'm at Carnegie Mellon and we
have a computer net. called Andrew (as in Andrew Carnegie, MIT had a similar
system called Athena I think) which is a campus wide (even in the dorm rooms)
file server system.  Just last year, they released a handler for the Macintosh
that allows you to access the network via the AppleTalk port.  (This project is
a joint effort between CMU and IBM and recently Apple (using Mac II's as
workstations soon)) Now the project is going to start at the University of
Michigan (I think) as well and will be trying to get all kinds of computers
(not just IBMs and Macs) onto the fileserver.  The Andrew project is aimed
towards Universities it seems.

If you could get the Spectre 128 to work with AppleTalk, then you would offer a
"cheap" alternative to buying a $2000+ Mac SE and would get the business of
students buying STs at colleges with the Andrew System..if the Andrew system
goes over well.  In addition, you could get the ST to share printers w/ Macs if
necessary, send info between the two and so on.. a great aid to the ST line
which has no really good networking to speak of.  Having AppleTalk networking
capabilities certainly won't hurt the product. eh?

Besides, it would be nice to use the laser printers in the clusters from my
room.. sigh..
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Date: 20 Sep 88 20:36:16 GMT
From: att!holin!oaa@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Owen Alexander)
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Just saw this on a BBS (Network Express 512-662-9765) and thought
it might be of interest.
____________________________________________________________________
Date:   September 09, 1988
From:   DataQue Software
        P.O. Box 134
        Ontario, OH  44862

To:     All Atari 8-bit Developers, Users and Supportive Organizations

Re:     Turbo Power without getting Burned!
____________________________________________________________________

***** PRESS RELEASE *****

There have been many mentions in the almost decade since the original
Atari 400/800 Personal Computers hit the dealers shelves about there
being a future upgrade to meet the user's needs, and new and more
challenging applications.  Finally that upgrade is available.......
The Turbo-816 by DataQue, for the Atari 400/800/XL/XE.

DataQue Software is pleased to announce a powerful new upgrade which
was co-designed by Ron Shue, and Chuck Steinman.  This upgrade will
be available in two forms.  There will be a replacement CPU board for
the original 400/800 Computer system, and a plug in module for the
XL/XE series.  In either case, there usually is no need for any
modifications to the existing hardware.  The only exception to this
is with XL/XE systems which have their CPU soldered in place, which
will require the removal of the existing CPU, and the addition of
a standard 40 pin I.C. socket is suggested. Also included is the
Turbo-OS, by DataQue for use with the Turbo-816 CPU boards.

The Turbo-816 will not only increase the potential speed of the 
computer, but also break the 64k memory barrier of the existing
systems.  Not with the awkward paged memory, but with a fully linear
decoded address space of up to 16 megabytes.  Benchmarks have put the
Turbo-816 into a performance range ABOVE many of the 'other" PCs/!!
Special memory boards will be available to take advantage of the new
extended addressing range.  These will be mounted internal to the
computer cabinet, and in most cases require no hardware modifications.

And here is the amazing feature..... While adding all this power and
all this expanded addressing, the Turbo-816 for the Atari 8-bit
computer systems will maintain compatibility with most currently 
available commercial and user written software.  Using the Turbo-816
even those older programs will enjoy a speed increase!

The Turbo-OS is a replacement operating system for use with the Turbo-CPU
which will release the 16-bit processor to its full power.  Increased
speed will be the most obvious change, but hidden in its code, will be
an advanced new floating point library that will speed even the original
Atari BASIC to new levels of performance.  Again, on most systems it will
be just a matter of replacing the existing ROM(s) with the Turbo-OS.

The future holds many more products for the Turbo-816 systems including:

     1) a real-time multi-tasking operating system kernal
     2) a new assembler-editor-debugger package which supports
        the new assembly level instructions and addressing modes
     3) a new BASIC which will speed past the fastest of the
        current BASICs for the 8-bit machines
     4) a new K&R compatible C development package
     5) a new Turbo-GOS operating system (graphical based)
     6) a developers development kit for new applications

The NEW Atari Turbo-816 should be available by November of 1988
For more information contact your local Atari Dealer or, write:

       DataQue Software
       Dept. T-800
       P.O. Box 134
       Ontario, OH  44862

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Date: 21 Sep 88 14:44:59 GMT
From: mcdchg!chinet!saj@gatech.edu  (Stephen Jacobs)
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In article <598@stag.UUCP>, trb@stag.UUCP ( Todd Burkey ) writes:
> It uudecoded fine here, but I've noticed two problems with it so
> far...first, it hangs quite often on me (both when I use if from the
> desk top and when I run it from gulam). I haven't made it out of the
> bartering stages yet (it always hangs when I am moving between the
> first screens buildings). No bombs, just nothing happening (except
> hearing the keyclicks) as I press keys. The other problem is just one
> of implementation. The command line options are lower case only, so
> you really can't run moria as a '.ttp' file. The reason being that the
> desktop uppercases all your text that you type. The workaround for
> this is to simply write a little wrapper program that pexec's the
> moria code with the appropriate command tail. This wrapper can also
> set the SHELL variable at the the same time.

I've played this version of moria for probably about a hundred hours without
a real keyboard lockup.  There was a problem when I did a ".<direction>"
move while confused, but it cleared itself in a few seconds.  The program is
so large that I wonder if there might be too much already in your machine's
memory when you load it.  I generally have a hard disk interface and a clock
setter in the auto folder, foldr100, FATSPEED, and the control panel.  ST
curses is a stack hog, but the program was compiled with LOTS of stack space
to allow for that.
   The case problem was a really dumb oversight.  It should only interfere
with the use of the rogue key layout and consulting the highscores file,
though.  TOS ignores upper and lower case in filenames.  If this bothers
people enough, maybe someone (maybe me?) could come up with a binary patch.
In my experience, there's rarely a sequence of 20 op-codes that can't be
shortened enough to squeeze in 2 more.
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Date: 22 Sep 88 07:12:11 GMT
From: ece-csc!ncrcae!ncrlnk!ncrcce!rogers@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu  (Bob Rogers)
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What changes does the new version of TOS include?  Will it be useful
without the blitter?

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Date: 22 Sep 88 07:18:56 GMT
From: ece-csc!ncrcae!ncrlnk!ncrcce!rogers@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu  (Bob Rogers)
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I'd like to get users' reactions to Supra's 10 megabyte removable
cartridge "floppy".  The ad says it can also read and write IBM 360k
and 1.2 meg diskettes.  Have you tried it?  Does it work well?  Have you
tried it as a 5.25 inch drive with PC Ditto?

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Date: 22 Sep 88 07:22:43 GMT
From: ece-csc!ncrcae!ncrlnk!ncrcce!rogers@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu  (Bob Rogers)
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Has anybody tried ICD's hard disks for the ST?  Are they any good?  How
do they compare with Supra's offerings?

Thanks.
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Date: 22 Sep 88 12:20:18 GMT
From: killer!jolnet!rich@eddie.mit.edu  (Rich Andrews)
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In article <8809220240.AA20135@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> BIW109@URIMVS.BITNET writes:
>
>Subject: re: interfacing problem help
>
>  I think the CS2 line you describe is the same as the CCNTL line.
>I got most of my information from Mapping the Atari (revised edition).
>I am using an xl (the dreaded 1200xl, to be exact).  

>                                Ray Courtois
>biw109@urivms

In my opinion the 1200XL was one of the best 8 bit machines that atari produced.
It is more compatable to the 800/400 OS than the 800XL and the 130XE.  It
seems that the 1200 got a bad rap when it was introduced.

rich andrews
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Date: 22 Sep 88 03:33:02 GMT
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Date: 21 Sep 88 09:13:24 GMT
From: mcvax!ukc!etive!hwcs!neil@uunet.uu.net  (Neil Forsyth)
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I was poking around in Neochrome the other day (is that illegal?) and found
some more negative Line A offsets.

Screen width    -$2B4   # Note: The mouse pointer is clipped by these

Screen height   -$2B2

Colours         -$29A

Mouse X         -$258   # These change even when mouse cursor is disabled

Mouse Y         -$25A

Since they are in Neochrome and work with both ROM 1.00 and 1.02 then I assume
they are officially supported. Thanks to his involvement with the BIOS Dave
Staugas seems to be in a rather privileged position to know all this sort of
stuff. Would Atari care to comment on these locations?

Now a different topic. I have a Xebec S1410A SASI controller board connected
to a Hitachi DK511 40MB disk drive. When I do a system reset the heads take
quite a time (and small steps) to get back to the boot partition C. If I have
accessed partion E or F the ST times out and I have to press reset again.
There is no problem going from F to C during normal usage only at reset and
I know from experimentation that the problem does not involve the ST hardware
or host card. Is this just a quirk of the Xebec that I have to live with or
does someone know of a solution?

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Date: 22 Sep 88 16:51:46 GMT
From: phoenix!srmaster@princeton.edu  (Stephen Reis Master)
Organization: Princeton University, NJ
Subject: Re: TeX Driver for Atari Laserprinter
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>Does anyone have a list of servers that maintain TeX things.  I also need
>to get a TeX driver for my Pana. 1091i (epson compat).
>
>John Kawakami
>
>please reply to c91a-ra@franny.berkeley.edu

If someone has such a list, could they also send me a copy (or just post
it to the net)?  Thanks.
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