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Started by Paul Yue, CCS
Wed, 26 Sep 1990 19:46
Re: NOS/VE
Author: Paul Yue, CCS
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 1990 19:46
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 1990 19:46
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I've talked to the the Cyber support dude here (who also happens to know
a thing or two about emacs), and according to him, emacs should work
with the new C compiler from CDC. Unfortunately, this new compiler is
priced around CDN$15000, so we have been unable to try it out.
Locally, we can get a display of all jobs running on the system (batch, system,
interactive, etc) by using the command display_all_jobs. I guess this is a
local command? We also have an InterNet finger server that does this
disaj command at a finger request (there isn't an /etc/passwd file that it
can read names from though, and this server won't show last login times).
NOS/VE has a lot of tricks up its sleeve, that casual users never know about,
eg. job scheduling. We have our Cyber set up here to incrementally demote
a job's priority with increasing continual CPU usage. Helps keep things
moving when there's a lot of jobs going. The virtual DAS is very nice too.
We're going to be getting a Cyber 2000 soon, and our Cyber guru can't wait
to install X windows on it to give it a go.
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Re: NOS/VE
Author: Steve Swales
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 1990 19:50
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 1990 19:50
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As some of you know, I posted a moderately long list of my favorite
gripes about NOS/VE early in this thread to which there was quite a
reaction. In particular, I received LOTS of great help from Daren
Latham who works for CDC. Thanks, Daren! A few others sent helpful
e-mail (thanks, others), and I got a bit of hate mail (oh, well).
The upshot of all this is that I now realize a lot of the problems I
have encountered are the result of non-current revisions, to the
conservative way our particular site has been administered, and
admittedly to a lack of knowledge about the nitty-gritties of NOS/VE
on my part.
Several of these aspects conspired, in keeping with Murphey's Law, to
make things seem much worse than they CAN be.
Those of you who have been tempted to send me hate mail can interpret
this as a retraction. Those of you who might have more helpful advice,
please don't! While Daren (et al) provided me with lots of great work-
arounds, I can still use all the help I can get :-). One exception:
Several people have mentioned that there are ways to do SHOW USERS-
type operations. Since our system administrators have chosen not
to allow this type of operation, advice about it is of no use to me.
One thing I AM still interested in is if anyone has managed to port
Emacs to NOS/VE (as mentioned is probably possible in the last
article). While NOS/VE has a great editor already, it would still be
of great value to me to have Emacs working there, since I have it on
all of the other OS's I work with regularly (about 6 others in
addition to NOS/VE), and it is a great savings in brain strain not to
have to change editors when moving between machines.
-steve
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Re: NOS/VE
Author: jj needham 234-4312
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 1990 03:38
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 1990 03:38
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In article <PYUE.90Sep26204654@ria.ria.ccs.uwo.ca> pyue@ria.ccs.uwo.ca (Paul Yue, CCS) writes: >I've talked to the the Cyber support dude here (who also happens to know >a thing or two about emacs), and according to him, emacs should work >with the new C compiler from CDC. Unfortunately, this new compiler is >priced around CDN$15000, so we have been unable to try it out. > Having worked on the development of CV2 when it was in Canada, I can say that it is a deadly compiler (oh nice plug!) I think the Lehigh guys were porting emacs. It was surprising to see non-CDC Nos/VE customers (note homage to Nos) commenting on the OS. Having lived with the beast for so long, its interesting to see what real users think! If any of you have been reading comp.arch, they are feuding about the viability of 64-bit hardware/OS, hmmmmmm ..... later,jeff Disclaimer: | Jeff Needham If you become any more forgetful, you | Oracle Performance Group will be qualified enough to work in | Control Data - Santa Clara, CA Performance Analysis! | INTERNET jjn@hare.udev.cdc.com
Re: NOS/VE
Author: James Sterbenz
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 1990 20:46
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 1990 20:46
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Well, its been a while since I've read this group, but seeing the NOS/VE
subject line attracted my interest. Is anyone aware of published
information on NOS/VE and/or Cyber virtual state architecture?
The only information I have is in some of the CDC manuals, which are
not very accessable to the general community. It seems a shame to
have a system so deeply rooted in Multics, and with some very
interesting architecture, be so generally unknown in the research
and academic community. I've described NOS/VE in an operating
systems class I've taught, but was unable to provide generally
available references for reading lists.
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